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clint "idk the archer or something" barton ([personal profile] brandingproblem) wrote2023-01-10 03:10 pm

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tasernanny: ([agent] serious)

[personal profile] tasernanny 2023-02-01 05:18 pm (UTC)(link)
"All he needed was a guinea pig."

It's perhaps more cynical that he should be considering Fury is one of his oldest friends but it's because he knows Fury that he believes it. Fury will do what is best for SHIELD and Fury. He could risk an agent before he had to risk an Avenger. Whatever was done to him they're all watching and waiting to see if it goes horribly wrong.

Resurect an Avenger. It did feel good when Fury said it. It took him awhile to figure out what it truly meant, the underlying reason.

If it does, the method will be destroyed and Fury will try to find another way to keep the dead from resting peacefully.

"There's not one sample," Phil argues with a little frown. "There's more than one. Fury has backups of backups. He's not going to leave it to one sample. What if something took out all of you at once?"

At least six to seven samples of whatever the wonder drug is. Phil would prefer a nice round number like ten but it's hard to say if Fury wants that much sitting around. The more that exists the more likely it was to fall into enemy hands. Smart. Careful. Paranoid. That's Nick Fury.

"It won't," he agrees with a nod. "If you need to just do it when I'm busy so I can pretend like I didn't know what you planned."
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[personal profile] tasernanny 2023-02-01 06:00 pm (UTC)(link)
"It's a drug. None of me is mechanical. Stark and Banner confirmed that." Phil almost gestures to himself, hand twitching on his bottle of beer. He is his own flesh and blood. It has to be a drug. Whatever Tahiti is, it's a drug of some sort. That's the only thing that makes sense. "Unless you're suggesting that Fury has some sort of... flesh knitting machine."

Another statement that will be ironic in a few years. Natasha had certainly tried very hard to get answers. She took Fury's meddling with his memories personally, as she would given her own history.

The facts as they know them is that Fury brought him back with something called Tahiti and messed with his mind to make sure he didn't remember his death. Until Phil started to remember and went looking. All he'd been able to find is what Fury wanted him to find and when confronted had only said it was necessary.

"Barton," he says seriously. "I need you to keep an eye on me and make sure I don't... change. Physically. Mentally."

Phil can't shake the bad feeling he has about what was done to him. He doesn't know why because he doesn't know the exact details of what's happened to him. There are few people who know him as well as Clint does. If he starts to go wrong, Clint will notice.

"And if necessary..." Phil looks at him and waits for Clint to get his meaning. If he denies it, Phil will say it out loud. "I'm going to tell Romanoff the same thing."
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[personal profile] tasernanny 2023-02-01 07:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Clint and Natasha are the ones Phil trusts not only to recognize the changes but also know him well enough to make the call when the time comes. It's his mind he's most scared of losing. The memory tinkering is really... Phil is deeply unsettled and he doesn't know what else might have gotten lost.

"I don't think Fury would try it again." If dies the second time. "Unless he'd try an LMD."

Phil groans and pinches the bridge of his nose again. "Probably downloaded my consciousness while he was altering my memories. Don't know how I didn't think of that before now."

SHIELD even owns his mind, that's fantastic. Phil's pretty sure that wasn't in his contract but he's skeptical. It might be in there somewhere. It's been a long time since he read his actual contract.

He looks at Clint. "Has any of this made you feel better about your own situation with Loki?"

Because they still haven't touched on that. They need to get there. Clint has demons to exorcise just as much as Phil.
tasernanny: ([agent] serious)

[personal profile] tasernanny 2023-02-02 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
Phil gets up from his desk and walks over to the living area that's been provided. There's a very stylish couch and a very small bar because of course there is. Tony Stark had input on the interior design. It is also fully stocked with some of the best alcohol money could buy.

He gets a bottle of something expensive and twenty years old, grabs glasses, and then goes back to his desk. He pours for both of them and pushes a glass towards Clint.

"It's not your fault I died," he says, fixing Clint with a look. "We trained you to resist a lot of torture and interrogation but not magic. You fought in all the ways you could."

Phil chose to go after Loki. He put himself in that situation. That's not Clint's fault. That was his choice. They can't get caught in this argument. Clint needs to let go of some of his guilt. At least, over this.
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[personal profile] tasernanny 2023-02-02 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
"But you still think there's more you could have done." Phil can read a lot from that frown and the troubled thoughts flashing, very briefly, behind Clint's eyes. "I'd like to hear how you think we could better prepare out agents to fight that sort of interrogation."

He could present the evidence. Clint missed shots which he never does. He did not fight Natasha as hard as he could have. Phil knows their skills and they are equally matched. He did not give Loki the location of his family. He kept plenty of secrets and fought back in many small ways.

Yes, his actions killed agents. It opened the door to Loki capturing Thor and thus the confrontation that led to Phil's death but if he's hanging onto that for his guilt it's a weaker argument.

"Do you have a ledger now that needs balancing?" He's aware of Natasha own idea of how she needs to atone. If both his best agents have ledges Phil's going to have to start making a spreadsheet. There's no way to eliminate all their guilt but he hopes they can find some peace with what they've done.
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[personal profile] tasernanny 2023-02-02 01:04 pm (UTC)(link)
"I'm your handler," Phil reminds him, simple and straight forward. "I give the order for you to kill. The red in your ledger is often because I put it there. Of course I'm the accountant."

He knows almost every crime Clint committed before SHIELD. Same for Natasha. He knows every target they've killed, captured, or interrogated since they joined up. He pushes them to see psychologists and come to him when that doesn't help. He's trying to help balance that ledger whether they see it that way or not.

"Your reports are insightful but thoughts and feelings change over time." Phil lets his hand rest on his glass but he doesn't drink. He's debating that within himself for the moment. "Clint, if you just need to scream about how unfair it was I'm here to listen. I'll shut up and let you get it out. I understand the feeling."

Phil had shouted at Fury and while it hadn't solved anything he felt a little better afterwards. Sometimes that urge to scream in existential dread sneaks up on him.

"I can't stop you feeling guilty, but I can try to make it easier for you to cope with that guilt," Phil reminds him. Clint doesn't have to carry it all on his shoulders. He can share that burden with his friends.
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[personal profile] tasernanny 2023-02-02 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
That's how they all sleep at night. They tell themselves the questionable and outright horrible things they do are for innocent people so they don't get hurt. So they don't have to make the hard choices and can remain innocent. "You're less of an assassin these days."

It's rare the Avengers have to kill anyone but sometimes there's other work SHIELD asks them to do. They did lose two of their best agents in the shift to SHIELD and it's fairly well known that their loyalty is to their handler, not necessarily the organization.

"Why not? I'd understand the feeling." There are times Phil questions his memories, even ones he knows are real and have been for years. How could he not when he knows Fury's been in there?

But if Clint wants to argue that, well, Phil's going to let him for now. He's trying not to burden Phil even though it's never been a burden to help him before.

"As far as I know Thor took the Tesseract and the scepter back to Asgard." He was dead when that return was made. Every file he's been able to find and read said it went back with Thor. "It's under lock and key in Odin's vault."

Loki would have a very hard time getting close to Clint a second time. Phil knows Natasha alone would make sure the "god" never got so much as a glimpse at Clint much less close enough to make trouble.
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[personal profile] tasernanny 2023-02-03 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
Phil frowns at his drink. "That is what is in the official reports I've read."

So, another lie he's stumbled on. Phil isn't surprised but he's... disappointed in himself for not questioning the story. For not seeing the lies typed up on the screen in front of him. It made sense to him, though, that Odin wouldn't leave a powerful weapon like that with Earth.

Maybe he didn't come back from the dead with all the same facilities. He should be able to recognize a cover story. He's written them in certain cases when the real information needed to be buried and buried deep. Usually, at Fury's request.

"What's there to get into?" he asks, raising an eyebrow. "Fury made me think I'd been in a hospital and then recovered at a spa in Tahiti. But I dreamed of something else and went looking. It's haunting me."

False memories. Mind wiping. Lies. Phil is aware of how intense and underhanded SHIELD can be but having it done to him is... it hurts a little bit.
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[personal profile] tasernanny 2023-02-03 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
"No, that's not fully true," Phil argues. "Fury has a very short list of trusted people and he cuts them out easily but he has them. He has friends. Not many."

I'm one of them, Phil thinks to himself. They've worked together too long for him not be among the trusted. Yes, Nick tampered with him and brought him back but there's a reason. They simply don't know the reason.

Finally, he takes a careful sip. It's probably the best hard liquor he's had in years. It might be worth unraveling his brain to enjoy this. He sets it back down very deliberately.

"I dreamed I was in a very beautiful beach front resort but I was in a hospital gown." He stares out the window, frown slowly deepening. He still remembers actually spending time in a spa and enjoying his time there. His first vacation in years. "And I always woke up with a migraine."

There was one night he woke up with a migraine and a bloody nose. Phil knew then that something was very wrong with him. He had to investigate his own death.

"I'm not sure what it means but it was strange enough to make me go look for the truth."
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[personal profile] tasernanny 2023-02-03 12:29 pm (UTC)(link)
"I remember my last words with Fury. Those are most likely my last genuine memories until maybe recertifying for field work." Those last words weren't even a complete sentence and about work. That's fitting for Phil though. He's always given SHIELD everything. "My memories then pick up when I woke up in a very nice medical facility before being transferred to the spa. I have memories of physical therapy there and other treatments."

His chest still gets tight and the scar tissue pulls uncomfortably when he gets tense. Phil, almost habitually, rubs at his chest right then over the scar he can feel through his shirt. "The doctors told me I died on the surgery table but they were able to bring me back by standard revival procedures."

Phil smiles ruefully at Clint. "You're probably familiar with the feeling of your mind not fully being your own, right?"

Time for Clint to crack himself open like Phil has done.
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[personal profile] tasernanny 2023-02-03 01:57 pm (UTC)(link)
"He saw the same potential I did," Phil murmurs softly. Back when they first met and Clint had been more likely to fight for money than a cause. Phil felt like the only one who saw something in the surly archer, not just in terms of skill, but in personality. Given the right push, Clint could become one of the best. He had become one of the best, worthy of the title Avenger.

He didn't like thinking he and Loki could think along the same paths and reach the same conclusions.

"I think the key phrase there is naturally inclined," he says louder, watching Clint staring at his glass before taking a drink. "You were not naturally inclined to change sides. What he did was unnatural to who you are and what you believe in."

It might have been easier on Clint if it was total control. If Loki pulled his strings like a puppet. The Asgardian had him on a leash but given him just enough freedom, just enough control that Clint would take his actions as his own once let go. Is Loki capable of such foresight? Phil's not sure but it's possible.

"My memories are changed but it doesn't feel like Fury changed anything else. I'm still myself." Except the parts that are changing because of dying and coming back. Knowing he's on an experimental second chance is changing him. How could it not? There is the fear, though, that those changes aren't his own choice.
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[personal profile] tasernanny 2023-02-04 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
"I saw that you had skills and were looking for direction. I did not see your heart at first." Phil didn't realize how deep and strong that heart was until much later when Clint started to trust him. That's when he realized just how great of an agent Clint could be. Not just good, but great.

And he was right.

Phil raises his glass in a toast. "We're only human. We're going to change otherwise, I'd be more worried."

Whether that change will be good or bad really remains to be seen. Clint is coping. Phil has not lost his mind. They're handling it even though sometimes it feels like everything is going wrong inside their heads.

After another drink he sighs heavily. "He did take my best agent."

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