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clint "idk the archer or something" barton ([personal profile] brandingproblem) wrote2022-08-17 07:57 pm

au shenanigans for icasm

there should be a name for this at some point
we'll figure it out shh
icasm: (me and you)

In dreams

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-18 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
Loki doesn't do this all the time. For one thing he, himself, barely sleeps in the first place and both parties being asleep is more or less necessary for it to work.

For another he's not trying to drive Clint mad. Not really. And Midgardians need their dreams. So. It's not an all the time event.

But sometimes. Tonight. Tonight Clint's dreams start out however his subconscious chooses except Loki is there. Present in an un-dreamlike way. A subversive sense of reality wedged into the otherwise unreal.

And so Clint has two options: he can continue the dream and deal with Loki in the time between it's end and Clint being entirely awake. You know. During such sensations as body paralysis. Or he can interrupt his own dream. Direct himself at Loki. See what happens.

Waking up, though? Not on the menu yet.
icasm: (says find a home)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-18 05:29 am (UTC)(link)
Does he know what happens if Clint looses that arrow? Loki won't be able to dodge it. He is not in control here, not really, which is why Clint has to come to him in the first place. He imagines it won't kill him.

Some sort of enchanted sleep seems likely. Or a coma. Not that there's much of a difference.

To say he'd rather not find out firsthand is putting it lightly.

They're in the woods. Loki has no shoes on; the ground cover is cool beneath his feet. His clothes are loose and he's unarmed.

Upsetting. But he's not in charge, is he?

He could run. He could become the thing Clint is hunting. That would be... interesting. Potentially rather sexually charged, when all is said and done. Loki really only understands certain ways of being prey. But interesting nonetheless.

He's clearly considering it. Eyes shifting to behind Clint towards the path he's turned from. But he hasn't decided and suddenly Clint is too close. He swallows. Not fear. Hesitation. The telltale amusement.

Should I run? Asked but not spoken. An understanding, a voice in Clint's head that is familiar and undemanding both.
icasm: (and we all fell down)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-18 11:35 am (UTC)(link)
His tongue darts out and wets Loki's lips. Well. He understands the taunt enough, he thinks, hands balling into fists and then dropping open, too aware of Clint's own breathing, a loud pulse corresponding in his own brain.

Not that that is particularly unusual. For Loki, anyway; he's somewhat used to it being drowned out by the noise of existence otherwise. Here, in Clint's mind, it's different.

There's not a solid decision between standing there and fleeing. He doesn't remember turning away from Clint. One moment he's still and the next he's in motion, surrounded by trees, trying not to make much noise, trying to push aside the sense of thrill that overtakes his fear near immediately.

Wanting to be caught is one thing. Wanting to be a good hunt is perhaps not an unrelated other thing.

It's impossible to tell how long he runs for. Hours? Minutes? Long enough for the rules of the nonreality to state that he becomes tired. Exhausted. Thirsty. His hair sticks to the side of his face, his neck. He tries to listen for the hunter but can't focus on it for very long, the need to flee becoming too pressing for him to remain motionless.

There have been close calls already.

His magic is there but inaccessible. Like a river beyond a mountain. No less true but also not helpful in the moment.

There's a ruin, or a cabin, that Loki becomes aware of. A trap, perhaps. Safer than trying to find open water, either way. There's no door, just an archway. Either he will go in and find that Clint is already there or he will go in and be followed. Trapped.

He goes inside.
icasm: (and a smoke alarm)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-18 12:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Have you? A question, but not a demand for an explanation, from nowhere and everywhere. He hadn't expected a modern barn, of all things, but there was water and the chance to catch his breath, attempt at catching his bearings. It's difficult when everything else is so mutable, and when the god is the most solid thing present.

He's in a stall, eyes closed, listening. Clint stands in the center. There are no other animals here. He is the prey in question, after all.

He knows, without opening his eyes, that Clint knows exactly where he is. That the archer has an arrow notched towards him even now. His voice, when Loki uses it, is quiet. Winded. The exhaustion has not left him; neither has his arousal.

It's long past the time when Loki would have judged himself as failing for having that reaction.

"A novel experience for us both."
icasm: (and you on the way)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-18 01:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Trust is a strange thing to navigate, between them. The Untrustworthy and the Broken. Which is which? Well. Unimportant in the moment, perhaps. Loki isn't even certain that it will work, but this is what happens: in a small studio apartment in Ankeny, Iowa, he forces his consciousness out of his own body with Clint's in tow, and looks around.

There he is, on the bed that takes up the bulk of the room, frowning in his sleep, hair fanned out on the pillow. There is the black cat, Glød, curled up at his feet and staring at them both. There are other details: books, many of them, no television, a suncatcher, heavy curtains framing a view of a highway.

The feeling of being propelled back into Clint's dreamscape is something like the sensation of snapping a rubberband against one's palm.

One question answered.

"I didn't get lost." Loki opens his eyes.
icasm: (introduce myself)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-18 02:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Back against the wall Loki's desire is to flinch; instead he holds his head a little higher even though he is far from having the higher ground at this moment. It occurs to him, not for the first time, that Clint could do just about anything to him in this state and Loki is not certain what it would mean in the waking world. For him, mostly.

The desire to incite this into violence, sexual or otherwise, is so strong that he bites his lip to refocus. Tastes blood. It'll be interesting to see if there are any droplets on the pillowcase, should wakefullness happen.

Nothing is promised, after all.

"Being hunted." A headtilt. He knows that is not the real question... that is more like "why" or "to what end"... but Clint needs to be better at framing for the information he is actually looking for. "But now I've been caught, and you've thrown away your weapon. What is your plan?"
icasm: (we can play it safe)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-18 02:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Clint's hand is at his jaw; Loki does not struggle, showing slightly blood-stained teeth and a bitten lip. "Yes." Admission. Statement of fact, even, from someone who believes facts and truths are ever-shifting perspectives in the first place. There is blood in his mouth and in his veins; Clint is straddling him in such a way that Loki's arousal is evident and impossible to hide. Not that he's trying, mind, not with the way he rolls his hips slowly upward. Clint might stab him or fuck him or walk off in disgust but, either way. A reaction will be had. An answer given in response.

Loki's pupils are blown wide but still, his irises are green. He is looking to be consumed.

His hands are on the ground, at first, but then one settles, light, against Clint's thigh. The other doesn't move.

"Curiosity. To see if it could be done. To see what you dream about."
icasm: (I'm ok I'm not your baby)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-18 03:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Loki's immediate reaction is to hiss in pain, teeth bared and neck taunt, his fingers attempting to curl in and failing at that attempt. It hurts, definitely, and will keep him in place, but it does nothing to quell his arousal or desire for more. More contact, more pain, more of something unnamable. A reality woven directly between them. To be consumed by the one he hurt the most, who won't kill him because he believes Loki should live with consequences or something.

He was going to say something. Something about how this dream will not be 'pretty boring', that he'll hold the memory of it near and dear to him once he wakes. If he wakes. He'll probably wake.

Disappointing, perhaps. He could exist in this space of nonreality for a long time.

The way Clint presses in and licks at the blood in his mouth has his breath stuttering out in a moan. Possession. The door swings both ways, it is true; and Loki's innate and twisted sense of fairness is buried within the concept of handing the knife over for recompense after he's cut someone.

Love is a dagger, and all that. Pain is the most real of all the unreal.

He feels a little like a butterfly pinned to the board, bared and beautiful even in death. Loki still, however, refuses to beg aloud, despite the overwhelming desire to do so. His body does it for him, the press of his hips to Clint's more deliberate, his hand moving from thigh upward to reach beneath the hem of Clint's shirt and score nails into his side.
icasm: (or make up all the rules)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-18 04:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Loki recognizes that he should be afraid. Perturbed. Disturbed, perhaps, at how much I've killed you so many times in my dreams sounds like a caress feels. At how much he craves pain and suffering and punishment, especially from this man in particular.

He craves other things, too. To trace a path with a fingertip down Clint's spine and chase the shudder with his tongue. Clint's hands at his wrists, at his hip. Pleasure without as much pain.

But he doesn't deserve that, no, so here they are.

"Far be it for me to deny you a new experience." Rolling his hips again, wondering if he can get off before the pain becomes too overwhelming if that's the path they're to take now. "I'll struggle." A bloody smile as his adam's apple bobs when he swallows. "Not that I expect you'll mind, much."
icasm: (the danger gets me high)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-18 04:57 pm (UTC)(link)
"You know the answer to that already, and you have a terrible habit of not asking the question you mean to." Part of him is struggling between the softness of touch and the sharpness of teeth, between bruising and bleeding and the goosebumps that rise in the wake of Clint's hand that isn't currently fisted in Loki's hair. Mostly because he doesn't know why. Mostly because he's not sure which interaction he craves more, at this moment, but the idea of being held gently while Clint kills him is one that won't leave his mind now.

"Is this me, or is this you? That's the nature of the thing you're trying to get at. The imbalance of power. The drive to hurt me. My willingness to accept it from you. Is that my doing, or yours? There are no simple answers." Where does that begin or end? Loki doesn't know. He only knows that it exists and he's in no position to ignore it. Nor does he wish to try. Killing him would have freed them both of it, he imagines, but Clint won't see it through in the waking world.

"You hate me, for what I did to you. To cause you to harm those you care about. I hate myself for driving you to it. For not being stronger. Because there is this, now. Because you are worthy of causing me harm and you hate me for it. You don't want it, and I need it. Where does that leave us?"
icasm: (if it's already been done)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-18 05:53 pm (UTC)(link)
The new placement of the knife is not at all what Loki expected when he'd seen it raised; he'd anticipated finding it lodged in his chest, perhaps, or his throat slit so he couldn't speak anymore. This instead, Clint pierced through the side, Loki's hand unable to move from that position, this acquiescence to their connection, being made real in a place that is the height of unreality, being harmed and causing harm simultaneously, Norns, he was not prepared.

Clint could not have shocked him more if he'd confessed love and proposed marriage instead.

One of Clint's children had asked if he loved him, and Loki had hedged. Is love enough of a descriptor for what he feels, the push and pull of desire and need and understanding, the weight of a possession that goes both ways? He's tried, the Fates know, to be fair in the light of what Thanos wrought of them both. To make things even, now.

But he is still chaotic at his core. Demanding and unrelenting in that fact. These things, he cannot change. Doesn't want to.

His other hand is still bleeding from the freed knife when Loki brings it to Clint's face, breathing in a quiet but nonetheless strained wheezing. His thumb traces along Clint's bottom lip and smears blood along Clint's cheek and jawline before Loki leans in, presses their foreheads together, brushes the tip of his nose across Clint's in a gesture of soft sweetness that is, also, complicatedly not a lie at all; the fingers at Clint's side twitch before stretching out and coming to rest.

Clint's laughter would worry him if Loki weren't well acquainted with madness already.

"Yes," Loki rasps. He thinks, knows Clint is worthy. Of this, of him, of whatever blessings he could devise to grant. In another life, at another time, Clint would be a perfect acolyte-turned-champion to a madness-touched god. Here, now, nothing is perfect. Loki is doing what he imagines is his best, either way. "You are worthy. And we are fucked."

The kiss he follows that statement up with is not entirely one thing or another, but teeth and sweetness by turns. An exploration and a demand simultaneously. He is bleeding and still achingly hard; this man has caused him to bleed, and he's always been attracted to and turned on by his own suffering. In shows of power that rival or undermine Loki's own.
icasm: (to make ends meet)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-18 06:43 pm (UTC)(link)
There is no imagining or scenario in which this isn't bloody, in which Loki doesn't draw a final breath before Clint wakes; what he doesn't know is how much of it will stick with the formerly mortal man, how much he'll remember in the waking world. Loki, for his part, will cherish every drop of blood, every kiss, every hint of pain, every moment of blessed friction.

His bloody hand is now at the back of Clint's neck and he gasps, knees falling apart to give the other man better access. "You should fuck me," he rasps, whispers, pleads despite his best intentions to do anything but that. Its not enough, the rutting, he wants heat possession violence within and without. To make it as real as he can.

There's a chance this will only happen the once, after all. A slim one, but it does exist. He'd be a fool not to take advantage of what he can.
icasm: (and the message coming from my eyes)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-18 07:34 pm (UTC)(link)
There's a laugh that becomes a cough that becomes a moan as Clint touches him, and yes, it's good, very good actually, but not enough, rather like several drops of water on the tongue of someone dying of thirst. The hand impaled to Clint's side shifts as far as it can before the presence of the blade puts a stop to that, and the one at Clint's neck is now an arm across his shoulders, gripping and encouraging and keeping him from moving too far away.

"You're right." He talks too damned much and he should leave, but he's not going to. "Clint." He never uses the other man's name, for some reason. Foolish ones, probably. Sentiment, and the like. But he needs his attention, now, even as Loki struggles to catch his breath. "Please," and he shuts his eyes because he is reduced to this, yes, and there's a good chance he'll be denied anyway, but. "I need... I need you. Inside of me. If only the once."
icasm: (memories tend)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-18 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Part of Loki's mind is a little slow on the uptake, now. Due to bloodloss, possibly, or perhaps just the memory and the concept thereof. The driving force of his arousal. The disorientation of being in someone else's mind through a method other than enchantment, one that locks his magic away and twists the use of most of it far out of his reach. And so, at first, it is just a bed. There is light, comfort, and soft kisses. Blood on his cock and pain in his hands and denial of what he wants, what they both want. Clint pulls away and touches him more and refuses him and really, Loki would be proud of his insistence if he wasn't already feeling so neatly unraveled.

He doesn't reach for the other man again, right away. He groans, instead, muscles tensing and relaxing in turns, the fingers in his free hand balling into a fist that bats ineffectually at Clint's shoulder in annoyance before falling back to the bedsheets.

There's something familiar about the shape of the window, he realizes, before he remembers where he's seen it. In a photograph. One saved on his phone. The Barton children all grinning into the camera and sending it to him for some holiday or another.

It's actually his phone's wallpaper, now that he thinks about it.

Ah. That explains a lot of things. Where they are, anyway. But it in turn explains very little. Clint will hunt and hurt and care but take no pleasure in any of it.

Loki can't stand it, conceptually. Even as he sees the appeal.

"No." A simple answer for a complicated question. "It is not enough. If we were only enemies, if this were only about the death of a god who avoids death, there would be an altar, and a knife, consecrated. My blood, and yours. You would fuck me, and take my heart out after you came, and eat it. And then your people would kill you to ensure you wouldn't rise up in my place."

There are tears on his face now. Frustration. Regret. Sorrow. He hates them, as always; attempts to wipe them away just to smear blood all over his own face in the process.

"If we had not..." He frowns, and shakes his head. If there had been no Thanos, if Clint had become Loki's champion via some other means, some other twist of the Norn's threads of Fate, there would have still been this. Violence and the desire to submit. "There is power in what I'm asking of you, Clint. And pleasure. Have you decided you're not allowed either?"
icasm: (tell me go back home)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-18 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
"You're right; I won't be dead." There will be consequences. A price, perhaps, or possibly merely a side-effect. He doesn't know. Their situation is rather unique, all told. But he's sure he'll feel it, the dream-death. Draw his last breath and feel it rattle before he ceases to be.

He is looking forward to it, in the way he looks forward to anything that might destroy him in its wake.

"You care." He hisses out the word, having closed his eyes again when Clint licked the blood and tears from his face. A feral gentleness he can't hope to have again. "You always cared. You are soft and compassionate and gentle with me, even in your anger, your fury, your disgust. I don't deserve that, we both know it, but that doesn't change it. And... the things you want from me above all others I can't give you. I can't take it back. I can't undo what I've done. And I can't leave you alone. So what am I supposed to do? You won't free me of this, and I cannot. Instead, I'm to be left with the sensation of falling at all times, empty and alone, and disconnected from..."

This time, he doesn't bite down on his lip. He bites his tongue instead, allowing the blood to coat the inside of his mouth. I have never asked you for much, he thinks. Forced, yes, demanded, certainly, but asked? If I were you, I'd deny me out of spite, follows quickly on its heels.

Opening his eyes he gazes at Clint for a moment before tearing his gaze away. "There's no reason why you should."
icasm: (let's tear it apart)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-19 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
It is, in fact, how Loki feels all the time. How Loki has felt, for centuries. To wonder if you are an outcast, alone, because of your choices or just who you inherently are, and then to learn it's both, both are true, they've always been true and you were lied to about it, a perfect storm of monster and madness that no essence of nurturing could avoid.

Loki would like to be better, sometimes. But he has no real idea how to start without lying about the past whole cloth. Not an option, really, especially not on this planet, and he is stuck on this planet until Clint decides otherwise.

He won't admit that, however. Let the Hawk figure it out on his own, perhaps.

This is what he does to the things he loves is a bitter realization to have, as Clint presses into his body, as Loki tilts into those kisses, as he wraps his legs around Clint's waist to give him better access. This man would kiss him softly, on this bed, but resisted taking more from him, even when offered, even when begged for, and for what?

Perhaps for the same reason that Loki has resisted anything that doesn't come wrapped in suffering. To have anything, briefly, something that helps him forget that feeling, or fills him with faith that he might not live an entire existence of only that, just to have to turn to dust between his fingers each and every time. Because of his choices. Because of the immutable will of the universe.

"You want me out of your head." That has not been a possibility since we met. Loki's expression is rueful as he touches Clint's cheek in a show of softness he likely doesn't desire and Loki does not expect a return on. "You want to know where I begin and you end. You want to know if you could be a good person." Loki could give him many things, but not the answers to those questions. He cannot unmake the past.

It is a terrible thing to realize you are not the best thing for someone you need so completely, he imagines. Mostly, for him, the terrible thing has been realizing he may not be useful to them in some way. A hindrance instead of a help.

For a moment he is not disconnected, the warring sensations of dream and memory colliding inside his head, his body. For a moment he is something important to someone important to him and it feels like what he imagines belonging must feel like. Even if it's terrible, and tainted, and probably wrong for everyone involved. Even if Clint hates him for it.

Even if Clint won't remember in the morning.
icasm: (tell me which one is worse)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-19 03:40 pm (UTC)(link)
The tenderness is both welcome and terrifying even as it is wholly unexpected. Clint presses his face into Loki's neck and his hand wraps around the other man's shoulders again, less of a demand and more of an embrace. The noises Loki makes in response to those kisses are breathy and sweet and just a bit needy.

Somewhere in the back of his mind Loki can imagine that this is different, that they came at this from some other shared past, that it would be safe and good and expected to be soft for this man, and his awareness that many parts of him long for that to be true while simultaneously believing it is impossible to ever be true is immediately interrupted as Clint pulls the knife free and slams into him.

Loki cries out once, wanton, terrified, his body having relaxed into the earlier pace of things, before the force of Clint's next thrust pushes the air out of his lungs. His hand at his shoulders slips down to Clint's arm, fingers curling around the bicep; the newly freed one settles at Clint's hip and ineffectually scratches at the skin there.

Hawks hunt snakes. He wants to close his eyes but shouldn't, cannot, won't. He wonders how much Clint can see and understand. Does he know that Loki is honestly afraid, and pleased, and sorry, for all the good it will ever do either of them?

His cock jumps in Clint's hand; Loki's back arches a little and the moan that escapes his lips is ragged. It won't take much for Loki to be pushed over the edge into orgasm.
icasm: (I had a cane)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-19 04:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Part of Loki is pleased and honored to have deserved a (relatively) clean death. A steady blade, an almost quick release from existence. Painful, yes, but what isn't? The rest of him is too busy dying in the first place, gasping for air that doesn't come, the sense of overwhelm that comes from an intense orgasm colliding into rapid blood loss. His body tenses and doesn't stop tensing. He feels faint; this, too, doesn't improve.

He tries to say something, to grant Clint his thanks, his absolution, but there are no words, no air for them, and his throat is ruined besides.

He smiles. His fingers trail down Clint's arm. Clint is the last thing he sees.

Loki exists, physically, in the dream for a moment. The real in the unreal. And then the god, too, becomes unreal, so much dust in green and glittering gold.

For the next day the connection between them lies dormant, existing but unresponsive, a door that may or may not exist. Something that was once a door, definitely, that now leads to nothingness. It doesn't flare to life again until Clint falls asleep the following night, but there is no god walking his dreams then, either, only a sense of something where there was nearly nothing for a while.

When Clint next wakes it is reformed, reforged. A window, perhaps, or a doorway in which the only real barrier that exists is merely a flimsy bit of fabric. Nothing that can be locked, or slammed.
icasm: (can you tell me a secret?)

after the dream

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-19 04:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Here is an arrangement of facts:

Loki dies that night. Literally, in the waking world. He remembers dying, in the dream, and then he remembers the excruciating agony of resurrection into a body that held no life for a time. It only takes roughly twenty-four hours, but he has no real sense of that.

He's covered in wounds. Blood. The sheets, somehow, aren't. His throat hurts (unpleasantly), his ass hurts (in quite the opposite fashion), his hands have knife wounds through both palms. There are cuts and bruises and teeth marks all over. He feels sluggish and overwhelmed by the pain; his magic exists in fits in starts and he's too exhausted to sort out how to fix that, or any of it, so he doesn't.

Instead, he sleeps. For seven more days.

On the fifth day, the Barton children become aware something is amiss. Because Loki has missed an appointment with Lila to gossip about her dating life over sugary beverages. He doesn't answer the series of phonecalls that follow, or several text messages. When Cooper actually goes to the apartment on the next day, the door doesn't open, and the only response he receives from "Is anyone in there?" yelled toward the door is Glød's meow.

It's decided between the two of them that it is Lila who will inform their father that something is wrong, but they're still debating how exactly to go about doing that, when Loki wakes up and responds to text messages stating he'd "been asleep" and "wasn't feeling well", along with apologies for worrying them. When threatened with another visit he sent a photo (after he'd had a bath) as proof of life and told them that he couldn't have visitors or take a video call because he'd lost his voice.

But he was certain that he would get it back in a few days. They shouldn't worry overmuch. Everything would be fine.

So that is the context in which Clint gets a text from his daughter, followed by an address, and several unhappy smiley faces.
icasm: (says find a home)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-19 05:13 pm (UTC)(link)
There is music coming from the bedroom area; something quiet, without lyrics. The bed is pristine, made almost perfectly, with small imperfections in the tucks and folds and placements of pillows that might indicate that Loki did the arrangement by hand, instead of by rote magic. There is a plush couch in the immediate space Clint finds himself in, and a small door that likely leads to a bathroom, along with a large scrying mirror on a wall opposite the entryway.

There are books. Many books. Several plants, also, arranged on windowsills. Glød does not meow at Clint, merely continues to weave her way between his ankles as he proceeds past one large bookcase that blocks the view of the kitchen from the doorway.

The kitchen where Loki is sitting, actually, on a bench beneath another window, a book in his lap and blowing on the surface of a hot cup of tea. Which he nearly drops in his startlement once he notices Clint standing there. It's telling, perhaps, that his capturing of the mug is imperfect, that his hands shake a little, that he nearly drops it again and hisses in annoyance at the hot liquid splashing against his skin, refocusing his attention on the offending mug even though no real sound comes out.

He steadies himself then. Takes the sip of tea he'd been intending to have, swallows, only grimaces for a split second. Returns his gaze to the man in his living room. Why are you here? Not "how did he get here" or "who told him about this place" because Loki is a fool in many ways but not in others.

It is telling, also, perhaps, that there is more communicated in the question in Loki's voice in Clint's brain than just the query itself. That there is emotion behind that, emotion that Clint can perhaps sense: a sense of disquiet, exhaustion, and also... something settled. Some manic, still-sharp edge laid smoother within him.
icasm: (don't want to hear about it)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-19 06:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Loki sighs, a shift in posture more than a sound, and then sets the mug and book aside on the counter. Stands and moves toward the fridge where he then hands Clint a bottle of his favorite beer. Not whatever he drinks at home but whatever he seeks out abroad, when traveling. Something difficult to import, or at least not usually worth the effort.

If he has to take Clint's hand and wrap it around the chilled bottle himself, so be it. Either way, Loki won't be accused of being a bad host again.

He doesn't indicate that he has noticed Clint's realization, or where that hand was, doesn't ask again why he came; only gestures towards the couch. They should probably sit, yes? He'll collect his tea and join him, even if it means putting a hand at the other man's shoulder, turning him around, and then nudging him toward the couch physically.
icasm: (and I'm bleeding)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-19 07:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Holding the mug with both hands is ideal for keeping it steady; seeing Clint here, as Loki slowly but certainly rebuilds his body and connection to magic after being severed from both due to both of their decisions in Clint's dreamscapes is unnerving and a little frightening and also...

And also. There's a reason the door didn't allow Cooper through but didn't even pose a semblance of hesitation at allowing Clint inside. If he'd come days earlier, while Loki was sleeping, it would have been the same. It's an interesting sort of thing, the way this thing between them works. Has grown. Has evolved.

Loki knows that his first thought upon waking (the second time) was a sense of vague disappointment that he'd woken alone. Not that he'd expected anything else. But emotions and desires aren't often made of purely sensible things, in his case.

The part of Loki that is fascinated by a puzzle loves it, everything that he's learned, everything it implies for the future. The part of Loki that is frightened of what it means, represents, the power that it indicates Clint holds over him, unwillingly perhaps, unwittingly at times, is trying to have faith in the idea that, eventually, one day, it'll be fine.

That doesn't mean it'll be fine today. Nor does it mean that he wants Clint to find himself mired in grief over what has occurred, for his role in it. It was wanted. Perhaps even necessary.

I told them I would be fine. Regret, yes. That he worried them. That he lied, via omission, to two of the people he tries very hard not to lie to when he can avoid it. Sometimes it can't be avoided, however.

Loki sets the mug down next to Clint's currently ignored beer and, gently, hesitantly, runs his hand up from the nape of Clint's neck into his hair. I will be fine. I'm just tired. An uncomplicated truth from a being who doesn't really believe in such things. As much for Clint's benefit as his own.
icasm: (without joy)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-19 08:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Glød makes a very catlike noise of protest at being suddenly dislodged from her new favorite perch on the archer's shoulders before settling herself at Clint's hip, paws against his thigh, sharp claws digging in through his pants just a little. Not a threat as it would be for a guest that behaved this way, that dared to touch her master; merely a reminder that she exists.

Petting her was better than whatever this is.

Loki, for his part, narrows his eyes and freezes. Indignation and frustration and the briefest flash of anger mirrored in his expression, in their connection. You're being a poor guest. Which is about the still ignored beer, actually, which Loki clearly obtained just for Clint at some point in the past, and is not directly about the touching. Or Clint's reaction to it. Though Loki did, for a split second, entertain the idea of slapping Clint across the face for what he perceives as a nearly hysterical reaction.

He's just not sure what would happen, as a result. If he would be able to mitigate the force of his hand. If Clint would take offense to that, too. If it would inform the other man that he's sturdier than he used to be.

Too many variables. Loki's nostrils flare. What are you angry at me for, now?
icasm: (living or dying first)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-19 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't be daft. Sharp. Annoyed. Clint still has his wrist and this feels like an edge that might be dangerous for either or both of them. Or, perhaps, there might be stairs on the cliffside to the bottom, to the next thing.

He probably won't find out if he moves too fast, so Loki merely raises his eyebrows and waits. Why would I do that?

It pays off. Clint releases him, and Loki sets his hands in his lap and watches the other man with some curiosity.

I know that. Less annoyed, now. Still petulant, however. He doesn't think this is the most direct method of getting to the source of what has upset Clint, but it is... progress, of a sort. His fingers twitch in his lap before he folds them and forces them to relax.

He wants to touch him, reassure himself that he's really here. As something for his hands to do. As a method of chasing and refreshing the memory of that sense of complete connection he'd had before the other man slit his throat.

It's possibly a very stupid thing to want, in light of Clint's... complaint.

We are beyond that. Clint won't look at him, and, well. Loki supposes he shouldn't blame him. He hadn't intended for the man to find out this way, if at all. And to be pedantic, Glød is more than a cat, anyway.

As if in response to her (unspoken, by the literal definition) name, Glød chirps in pleasure and leans into Clint's hand.
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icasm: (to carry alone)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-19 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you feel like a pet? Indentured to me for protection and sustenance? In no way or sense my equal? Loki scoffs, even though the action causes him a bit of pain as he reaches for his tea. Not like he's unused to pain, is he? Besides, it's worth it to express his distaste for the frankly ridiculous association at this point in time. In the beginning, perhaps. A very loyal pet, who in turn ensured that I ate. Rather a reversal of the roles implied there, I would think.

He rolls his eyes (even though Clint isn't looking) and takes a sip of his tea. At least it's still hot and soothing. Glød is purring, now, making gentle kneading gestures into Clint's thigh. Claws still out, though.

No, I didn't suddenly become a telepath. Could he talk directly into the minds of the Barton children? Possibly, all things considered, with the correct materials, time, and spells, but he'd rather keep this to the two of them anyway.

Besides, he enjoys his text and phone video conversations with Lila and Cooper and the occasional incomprehensible meme from young Nate. Why give that up in favor of something that might just terrify them in the end?

I don't particularly feel up to croaking my way uncomfortably through a conversation you only seem half interested in actually having, when this is an available alternative.
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icasm: (to a close)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-19 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Glowering, Loki puts down the tea and signs back as the words echo in Clint's brain. You would have to fucking look at me for signing to be worth my time or consideration. Besides, his hands hurt, even with that little bit, though he won't admit it aloud or via their connection.

It's likely obvious in the fact that his hands, which are usually quick moving and full of fluent gestures, appear a little stiff and slow. The scarring doesn't help.

If he'd flipped Loki off he would have probably laughed aloud, or at least tried to, and then flipped him off in response. Slowly and purposefully. Because he thinks this is just about the dumbest possible thing for them to be having a pseudo-argument about in the first place.

I wasn't thinking about the appropriateness of it. He pauses, hands stilling. I wanted to touch you. I still do. Feel free to praise him for his self-control. Or don't; he's not expecting any praise for it, anyway. I don't know what you'll deem appropriate for me to do, in regards to you.
icasm: (and a party hat)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-19 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
To be fair, the word (or even the concept) of 'boyfriends' has not crossed Loki's mind. In part because he's never had one, so what the fuck would that exactly mean? In part, because they belong to one another, and he's been doing his best, accidentally and purposefully, to make that as an equivalent exchange between them as possible.

Now, honestly, has he informed Clint of all the ways he's done this? No. Does he plan on doing that? Probably not until directly approached about it. Would he be opposed to being lovers, somewhere other than in Clint's dreams, surrounded by his own blood? Definitely not, though he does doubt that asking for that would be considered "appropriate" at this point. If ever.

Still. Clint rearranges himself on the couch and once Loki gets over the brief flash of annoyance at anyone's outside shoes being anywhere near the upholstery he's filled with a sense of thrill. Contact. The invitation of touch. The fact that Clint had reacted poorly because he couldn't see but could only feel how Loki touched him in the first place has not occurred to him, either.

He might need to explain that to Loki, actually.

I usually stop myself. A nod; his hands aren't signing, now, having taken Clint's earlier annoyance as proof that he doesn't, actually, have to keep up with that. Instead, they're hovering over Clint's legs a moment before he settles them on the calves in his lap, just below the knee, one thumb tracing back and forth in a slightly unsteady line. Unsteady due to pain, yes, but also...

There's a thin, uncertain thread of unadulterated joy at the contact that radiates from Loki. Who is afraid of letting it grow into anything more solid than that, just as yet. Maybe after the tenth, or twentieth, time of being invited to touch. Of it not necessarily inciting a fight, as much as part of him enjoys fighting with Clint for a myriad of reasons.

He takes a breath. Swallows. "No." It croaks out, obviously, voice rough and unused, quieter than normal, but still. He said it. Be proud of him, Clint. Or be annoyed that he possibly slightly damaged his vocal cords further just to prove a point and also be a literal shit in the process, he's not (exactly) the boss of you these days.

He squeezes Clint's leg closest to his own chest in a gesture he hopes is at least somewhat reassuring. I don't want you to apologize. I don't want you to feel guilty either. I knew there would likely be consequences to my demands in that setting. I didn't know what they were, and I am not sorry it happened.
icasm: (now I wish)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-19 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I am not sorry, he repeats, annoyance flaring but there is also a sense of hesitation. He, too, is wondering how long it will take for one of them to fuck it all up, and historically, as far as he's concerned, usually, the blame for that sort of thing rests firmly on Loki's shoulders.

Why? He turns his head to look Clint in the eye, now, instead of staring at his hands on the other man's legs. Why does it upset you so much? Why do you think you shouldn't have done what I begged you to do?

He honestly doesn't understand. Like, at all.
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[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-19 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
So you hinge your entire decision-making process, in regards to me, on whether or not you're doing something I want. Incredulous, certainly. He raises his eyebrows as Clint looks at Loki's throat and tilts his head in obvious query. That seems very... limiting.

He leans back into the couch and keeps his eyes on Clint. You didn't wish for me to have the satisfaction of leaving consequence behind via a permanent escape. A shrug. He's still here; clearly, he's not escaped consequences, of all things.
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icasm: (so many feelings)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-20 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
Loki knows and understands Clint well enough to recognize that the other man feels played, in a sense, by him. Manipulated. And he was, to a degree, in that Loki was relentless in his quest to up the ante in a variety of dangerous (to him and his well-being, specifically) ways. But he thinks, perhaps, that Clint is giving him a little too much credit.

Everyone presumes there's a master plan as though Loki doesn't just plot for various long-term possibilities while simultaneously flying by the seat of his pants.

He wants to reach out and grab Clint's chin, forcing him to look Loki in the eye again. He wants to hit him, a little. He wants to laugh, to sigh, to cry maybe, to curl up against the other man and just ignore how dumb this all is.

Somehow I find myself doubting you would have enjoyed whatever the result of that was either. Norns, he'd probably just have been even more obsessed with Clint than he already is while his heart literally reformed in his chest. Set aside, for the moment, the idea that I went there knowing what I was doing. Because it is neither true nor accurate nor helpful in the moment. And tell me, please, why you are actually upset.
icasm: (the place where you belong)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-20 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't know I was going to. He didn't even know if it was a reasonable thing to be concerned about, at the time. Not that his feelings could've been qualified as concern, but still. I imagined that something would happen, yes. The best one for me to have asked about what might have happened to me, as a result, is long dead. Frigga would have known, or known how to find out. Where to look. And probably would have attempted to dissuade him from walking into Clint's dreams unprepared and unannounced in the first place.

It likely wouldn't have worked, her protesting, but still.

What he really wants to ask, the question he isn't sure Clint is prepared to answer directly, is why? Why doesn't Clint want him to die in reality? It can't be as simple as 'because Loki has clearly wanted it for so long', can it?

But maybe it could. He'd rather not learn that to be true and then be disappointed by it.

Speaking of lying: I try, very hard I might add, not to lie to you. Just. Putting that out there. I'm not interested in a repeat of that particular aspect of the dream. That's good, isn't it? That dying once, for real, appears to have sated that particular desire?
icasm: (as getting out of hand)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-20 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
Loki sighs, loudly, rolling his eyes again. He can tell that Clint doesn't believe him and is, in turn, rather annoyed about it. But it's fine. Whatever.

He'll deal.

Do you want me to swear that I won't? He doesn't understand the purpose of asking that question, actually, especially when Clint doesn't clarify what he'd prefer the answer to be.
icasm: (insane inside)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-20 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
Because you so rarely ask exactly what you mean, and I would like us to understand one another. Loki is five seconds from literally throwing his hands up. I hadn't decided, nor had I made any plans beyond attempting to restore my voice as quickly as possible, but I am not opposed to it. Conceptually. I'd rather not die again, but I suspect that could be... avoided.

He huffs out another sigh, looking forward and gazing at Clint through his peripheral vision.
icasm: (find your way back)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-20 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
Loki slowly turns his head to look at Clint straight on as he speaks. The man probably isn't wrong; Loki does tend to twist things to suit him, words especially, and it's not as though he's likely to have set that particular skill or impulse aside just when dealing with Clint.

He doesn't know how to bridge this, in particular. He knows what he wants, from Clint; he has a sense of what he thinks he deserves, but a more nebulous series of ideas of what Clint thinks he deserves. Or is acceptable. "Appropriate", even.

As if they can't just make the fucking rules up as they go along. As if they're going to somehow get in trouble. As if that were even a real threat at this point.

Then tell me what you liked about it. Is there anything that didn't feel weird, or sick, or wrong, or disturbing? His expression is put upon, but his emotional response is... hesitant, not quite hopeful, but something close to it, before he frowns sharply and looks away, feeling distinctly foolish for having hoped for something so soft in the first damned place.
icasm: (alright alright)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-20 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
Sighing, Loki allows his head to drop a little, chin angled towards his own chest as he stares at his hands and Clint's legs. He understands. Kind of. The idea, at least, of not knowing who he is being rather unsettling. Upsetting. Uncomfortable. That Clint may not know if he likes that version of himself.

At the same time he doesn't understand, because he's rarely been a creature who hesitates to indulge, good or bad.

Who do you want to be? Still not looking up. Maybe that's a goal. Or at least a good place to start. Loki swallows. Someone who wouldn't be here in the first place, I suspect. Which, again, circles back around to the things Loki can't do: change the past, or let go.
icasm: (so that I can really)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-20 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
Loki doesn't look up. He keeps his focus downward, on the scars on his hands, on the texture in the material of Clint's pants.

He knows how he would answer the question if it were turned back on him. That he wants to be someone worthy. Of Clint's care, or his violence as necessary, without Clint hating himself for it.

There's little point in saying that without being asked first, however.

How would I even begin to handle a simple person? How would I ever trust anything they say, or feel, or do?
icasm: (and a gentleman)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-20 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
He picks off an invisible bit of lint from Clint's pant leg. Trust doesn't mean believing everything you do or will do would be only in my best interest. He realizes that's... probably not ideal, for anyone else, and that trusting someone who doubts who they are when they're around Loki is likely the height of foolishness but here they are.

Foolish.

The request does get Loki to look at Clint, as if staring at the other man's face for several long moments will somehow make what he means clearer to Loki. It doesn't; he's not exactly surprised, but he also doesn't demand clarification. Loki is annoyed, clearly, and afraid, kind of, mostly of saying the wrong thing. Showing too much, too early, and thus making the desirable become ultimately unattainable.

Besides, what is this? Dying? Having some of his greatest fears realized in his lack of voice, a magic that doesn't work as it has for ages, a sense of powerlessness? Or is this the thing that this usually is, for him: the pervasive sense of loneliness coupled with the belief that it is what he deserves and all he's worth?

He could hedge. He could say 'I don't know'. He could be petty. But he's simultaneously afraid of being too specific. Clint could hold him; it would help, but he'd be too concerned that it would only happen the once, now, and he's not sure how he feels about that. So it goes with any number of other primarily physical comforts he can think of.

You could care, is what he settles on, in whatever way will not make you hate yourself for it.
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[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-20 12:14 pm (UTC)(link)
There is hesitation, confusion, curiosity, all within Loki in the moments it takes Clint to realign his body. When Clint's legs move Loki's hands shift to press into the couch at either side of his hips. He had, in all honesty, expected the other man to inform him that he'd already reached that particular limit just by being here in the first place. In Loki's apartment, in his presence.

If you don't get your hopes up, you won't be disappointed. If you expect the worst you can be surprised by things being not as terrible as that, even when they're still fairly terrible.

The confusion remains even as Loki twists his body, angles himself more in Clint's direction, and holds out hands that are immediately unsteady without something to apply constant pressure to.

There are... several reasons for that, honestly. Instead of being precious about it, Loki decides instead to focus on the fact that the tremors are less bad than they were merely two days ago. So is the pain. He suspects that the scars will always be visible, to the two of them especially and in particular, but he sees little reason to be upset about that.

Scars are a mark of survival.
icasm: (it's a cruel world)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-20 01:33 pm (UTC)(link)
At first, Loki more or less holds his breath in an attempt not to overreact. To balk from or desire too much of what he asked for: care. Which for him could cover a large swath of behaviors that aren't necessarily limited to acts of kindness, compassion; and while he knows that there can be a level of care in pain if applied for certain reasons, certain necessities, certain ends, it's definitely not the sort of thing he would expect out of Clint at this moment.

It's... nice? Not so gentle that Loki feels physically uncertain about it, in that way he has of being twitchy around unexpectedly soft and gentle things he's not prepared for (and this, actually, is what has him realize that perhaps the way he'd touched Clint earlier had not been the best idea). There's pain, of course there is... the muscles are stiff, the nerves are shot, but Loki makes a valiant attempt not to make any noises of discomfort, even when it does hurt.

Clint can tell, anyway, either by the involuntary movement of his hands or just by virtue of knowing Loki. Perhaps it's a ridiculous endeavor to begin with but Loki has always been a man of pride at odd turns, even when it does not suit or support him.

That his libido responds is not entirely surprising, honestly. It's touch and contact from the person he craves it from the most these days, after all. It is, however, embarrassing to become hard at this moment when he is trying very sincerely not to push, or make demands, or be...

Whatever it is that makes him difficult for Clint. Beyond the troubled history. Being himself, he thinks ruefully. Who gets horny at every single inappropriate damned moment, it would seem.

Really, it is one thing to find violence sensual. To be attracted to the things that others tell themselves cannot possibly be attractive. It is quite another to spend centuries sublimating suffering into ecstasy just to get incredibly aroused by soft kindness from someone who is offering nothing else.

He tries ignoring it, ensuring to keep his hip incredibly still, trying not to remember the moments of soft sensuality before pain that had taken him by surprise in Clint's dream, until he realizes the hand that had been set at Clint's knee is now, weakly, gripping into the fabric of his pant leg. Loki keeps his eyes on Clint's hands and forces himself to relax. It half works; his weakened death grip on Clint's knee lets up, at least.

Loki is not going to look up, however.
icasm: (I get caught up in dreams)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-20 01:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Loki nods, breathes. Doesn't look up. He wants to lift his hands and sign 'thank you', keep his mouth shut and his voice out of Clint's head, but he also doesn't want to break the contact at all.

So. Another breath, and then: Thank you. The jumble of emotions behind that lead with desire and shame at the forefront.

The kind thing, or perhaps the sensible one, would be to gently imply that Clint should leave. Or perhaps just ask him to, outright. He's going to fuck it up, Loki's even more certain of it now, this fragile moment of peace; it is merely a kindness that Clint hasn't laughed at him, or rolled his eyes, or grown irritated or disgusted or what have you.

'Why are you incapable of self-control?' is Odin's voice, in his head. An argument centuries past, a man years dead. 'What need have I for that?' had been his response, at the time, but now?

He screws his eyes shut. Clint will decide what happens next. He'll probably leave before it becomes too strange to handle. And Loki will refuse to make any move to stop him.
icasm: (I'm ok I'm not your baby)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-20 02:21 pm (UTC)(link)
A furrow between his brow, heat rising in his cheeks, are both responses Loki tries to push aside in his own mind in favor of extracting Loki's overwhelming and unrelenting desire away from Clint's question. The warmth of the other man's hand on his.

The shock that Clint hasn't opted to leave yet, despite the fact that both of them know he should.

He opens his eyes. Doesn't look directly at Clint. Looks around the apartment instead. Some of the plants need watering. He could probably manage it, or at least the bulk of it now that Clint has alleviated some of the pain in his hands, but. Well.

Loki doesn't actually want Clint to leave.
icasm: (the things)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-20 02:54 pm (UTC)(link)
His gaze does affix itself to Clint's face when he acquiesces to Loki's request. Clint moves away from him carefully and Loki's hands slide back to settle into the seat of the couch as he attempts to breathe and will his arousal down to a manageable and less embarrassing state.

There is always something oddly fascinating about watching someone else navigate a space in which Loki spends a great deal of time alone. The children know where he lives, yes, but he can count on one hand the number of times they've been inside for more than a handful of minutes; usually Loki meets them out in the world, shape-shifted into a different form, a different gender presentation, in order to avoid attention or scrutiny from those that would recognize him otherwise.

The Bartons always recognize him, though. That he allows for, on purpose.

Clint's new question startles him out of his considerations. The sense of longing for something as simple as this to continue rises in his chest, his throat. He can't, won't, ask for it. The presumption and imposition inherent in the concept of it are too much. What would he even say? 'I'm desperately lonely could you just stay and be here? I won't fight you. You wouldn't have to touch me.'

Desperate. Pathetic. His hands ball into fists.

Yes, thank you. Predominantly Loki feels thankful, in his uncertain and wary way, though the longing remains; Loki can't help it but he will continue to ignore it. So too, remains the self-disgust quick on its heels. He rises, then, because his kitchen is full of things both potent and dangerous, even though the tea in question is still on the counter, the kettle half full of water on the stove. But if he doesn't do something, if he just continues to passively accept Clint's help in this way, if he remains consumed by wanting with no real outlet, he's certain that he will say or do something foolish.

Ruin it. He's so afraid of ruining it. Of proving that he doesn't deserve this because he can't even pull it together long enough for a trial run.

In the kitchen he gathers the few things that aren't still out. The honey, the lemon, the tea ball. A spoon. Arranges them on the counter as something to do with his hands, something else to focus on, as the cat follows and leaps up into the window seat, cleaning herself.
icasm: (I know I should be angry)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-20 03:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think you're a monster, Loki starts and then pauses. He's a good negotiator, knows how to understand others well enough to get them to do things that are more aligned with his interests than their own. But it's not often he turns that ability around, forces himself to listen, not for the cracks where he can slip in, but for the shift in perspective. For many reasons. But I don't think a monster would feel guilty about it at all.

He's not trying to change Clint's mind. It's not insistent, or cajoling. He meant what he said earlier, when he'd told Clint that he wanted them to understand each other. This is him, making an attempt to understand in the face of the certainty that he will fail at it.

About feeling used, well. Accurate, perhaps. Loki did use him to an end. Trusted him with something he still feels relatively certain needed to happen, though he can also see how perhaps it went further than Clint feels was necessary. To that end he almost asks if Clint would still feel the same way if Loki had merely been injured, not dead, and then he remembers his own reaction the last time he unintentionally broke Clint's arm. In a crowded place, in the middle of an argument.

He'd fled. Not far. But still.

Sometimes a scale is only bad to worse and 'better' has no place in it.

He could tell Clint that he hadn't meant for him to find out, or a least not until Loki was better healed, more himself, but he doubts that would help.

I don't know how to improve any of that. The guilt. That I used you. That you feel like a monster as a result.
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[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-20 06:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Watching Clint breathe through to voice the idea that he has function but is not meant to have... violent desires? No, that's not entirely correct. Take pleasure in the fulfillment of violent desire, yes, that's more accurate, puts a few pieces of their differences into perspective.

Loki's frowning, as Clint speaks, as he listens feels senses his way through the emotional response on the other side of their connection. Being a weapon elicits the same response in Clint that knowing Clint killed him elicits in Loki. It's probably not the healthiest thing, in the broader sense, for most people, but.

Neither of them are most people.

The question has him huffing, slightly amused as his hands spoon honey into the mug, add tea into the tea ball, arranging both items so that Clint can add the hot water.

Often. It is not all he wants of Clint nor does it encompass all that he believes the archer is capable of, but. It's not an inaccurate assessment of how things have been between them. Ideally that would not be all.
icasm: (how did we end up)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-20 07:38 pm (UTC)(link)
There is a flush of fondness, pride, and no little possessiveness at Clint's acknowledgement of their state of belonging to one another that comes through without Loki expressing anything else directly, though he is watching Clint with an enigmatic smile that the archer is very familiar with.

There's a wind-up kitchen timer on the counter. Loki sets it to three minutes.

You could consider it my rebirth, if that helps at all. Since one must die in order to be reborn, no matter what some insane evangelical Christians might insist. For myself? A corrective measure. For others? Well. He shrugs, hands open, palms up. There are many things I would show you, many places different from this. And there are some methods of behavior that even I cannot tolerate, that should be also be corrected in those we may encounter.

He knows about the Ronin, even though it has mostly been Nate who has explained to Loki the history and cultural references at play there. He thinks Clint didn't have a terrible idea, really, he just doesn't thrive without an external sense of direction.
icasm: (raise hell and turn it up)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-20 07:56 pm (UTC)(link)
A possibility I am... more or less prepared for. A possibility he has actively plotted against, more like.

There's a moment's hesitation; not to tell Clint about Idunn's apples but for the admission that not every orgasm has to be led by pain. That he craves Clint's softness, as well, before. During. After.

There's that longing, again. Softer than before. Immediately tinged by embarrassment. Stop making him feel soft things, Clint, he doesn't know what to make of it at his big age.

He shrugs, swirling the tea ball in the mug.
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icasm: (arms entwined)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-20 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Green eyes track the lifting movement and drop of Clint's hand, before the alarm begins to rattle, and Loki reaches out to silence it.

Any of those gestures would have been welcome. There's a sense of thrill at what almost occurs, that doesn't quite dissipate despite Clint's decision not to see it through.

Loki picks up the mug, removes the tea ball and sets it into the sink, and blows against the surface of the liquid.

They are standing very close to one another, now. Loki turns to fully face Clint, leaning slightly against the counter.

I am not a creature that tends toward gentleness. I, perhaps, have never been, or at least not after I reached adulthood. I thrive in the absurd, the outcast, the subversive. That which has been deemed outside of reasonable desire. Pain is part of that.

You know this.
An incline of his head.

And yet. I find that I crave your care, your gentleness, even in the face of my belief that I do not, could not, possibly be deserving of it. It's complicated. Confusing, even, at times. I know how to navigate a desire for suffering, for pain. How to encourage it, pursue it. I don't know what I'm doing with the rest.

So. Shyness. Embarrassment. He takes another sip and shifts his gaze away.
icasm: (and a gentleman)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-20 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Asking for things is difficult, for there always exists the potential for denial.

A sigh. Another sip.

I suppose it could be worked on, my habit of only allowing for and making implied and explicit demands.

Is that Loki giving Clint the room to tell him to ask for things more? To take the risk of being denied? (Will small miracles never cease? Apparently today is the day for it.)

Another sip as he turns Clint's question over in his mind. Yes. A breath. Some of that is my fault, if there's fault to be had.

He pulls a hand through his hair, causing the curls to bounce and rearrange themselves around his face.
icasm: (have to get lost)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-21 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
Nose wrinkle. I take some offense to the idea that you're a dipshit. Also, Clint is definitely not a nobody at this point, even amongst his own people but especially in Loki's regard; still, that might be a pointless fight for another time.

Loki suspects it's a well-known secret amongst the Barton clan the high regard with which he considers Clint's family; even Laura who occasionally asks him pointedly (in his opinion) ridiculous questions he refuses to properly answer. You know how I feel about the children you've raised, the father you are. High praise, from a creature that has staunchly avoided parenthood for two millennia and also cannot stand a single person he ever has or could call 'father'.
icasm: (but I love to see the ee-yah)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-21 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
Eye-rolling. Also fondly. Yes, a good and somewhat predictable attachment for me, historically. You've met Thor. If we're going to talk about Loki's ability to handle being connected to a dipshit, then they might as well identify the first one he ever aligned himself with.

'You've been good', the emotion in Clint's voice, that he can simultaneously hear and feel coming from him, drives Loki to keep his mug up in front of his face, eyebrows slightly elevated. This is nice, this back and forth, but the compliment regarding his estimated parenting abilities is making him a little uncomfortable. Besides, it's not like Clint is wrong; Loki did begin ingratiating himself to the rest of the Barton family as a way of pissing Clint off.

It's just that he... actually enjoys children. In a broad sense. When they're old enough to reason. Usually. So that helped. And then, suddenly, somewhat to his own surprise, he'd managed to make friends with Clint's children.

Thank you. He isn't going to demand a subject change but it's a near thing. He will, however, continue sipping.
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[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-21 12:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Loki frowns, softly, and sets the mug back down on the counter. Even if he weren't connected to the other man in such a way he'd be aware of his discomfort. Could trace it back to himself, as the reason.

He should encourage Clint to leave before this gets ruined by one or both of them.

He's too selfish to do that just yet.

How do you ask for forgiveness when you're not sorry for the thing you've done, when you only feel bad that it hurt someone else? Unaccustomed and unused to apologizing on the first place means Loki doesn't have the faintest idea. But that sense is there, bouncing around inside of him.

He wants to kiss Clint but that is an always state, for him. Neverending. He should ask permission, first, but the fear of rejection, the possibility that he'll ruin this moment in the asking, has him considering his other options, for once.

So he stands a little more upright, opens his arms a bit. Would you like a hug?

Thank your children for training him out of asking that particular question in a much more convoluted way.
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[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-21 12:55 pm (UTC)(link)
The rejection stings, causing a small flare of hurt and anger even though Clint is laughing and not in malice, even as Clint offers him the opportunity to he more honest and possibly get what he wants in the end. Touch and contact.

So he's not looking Clint in the eye when he responds. Yes. Does he expect to get one, at this point? Hard to say!
icasm: (to where you came from)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-21 02:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Loki spends Clint's entire yet short approach towards him glaring at somewhere around the other man's midsection. He closes his eyes as Clint embraces him and tries to relax into it, despite everything else. It's nice. It helps, actually, and he returns the embrace, wrapping his arms around Clint's back and breathing for a few moments.

Just that. Nothing else.

However. Loki recognizes that the next thing he says, or does, will either be several steps in the wrong direction between them or a demand that Clint is not prepared to meet. Because he feels raw and on edge, now. Too much honesty between them.

Better to stop before that happens.

So. He counts to twenty, in his head, and then lets go. Pulls back. Thank you for coming. He looks Clint in the eye, now. You should go.
icasm: (even the coldest days)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-21 03:52 pm (UTC)(link)
One of the reasons Loki is so hesitant to sleep in the first place is the nature of his own dreams. A mess of prophecy, fear, trauma, longing. The whispered and screamed prayers of acolytes and believers, past and present. Occasionally with a none too terrible memory sprinkled in.

It's Nate and Lila's fault he's sleeping at all, actually. Between the two of them there have been bath bombs and sleep playlists and any number of other gifts that Loki refuses to refuse outright but definitely engaged in a little eye-rolling about, but. It's fine. It's sweet? They care and he is several years too invested in their well-being to get very prissy about them being invested in his as well.

Instead? Only a little prissy. Mostly directed at Lila who is old enough not to be too phased by it. Nate also wouldn't be, but he would call Loki out about it, so.

The dream starts here: a library with no ceiling. Where the ceiling would be are stars, constellations, the ever unfolding and branching fo the multiverse. Some of the books on the shelves speak in dead languages to each other. Some of them are screaming, but the awareness of that fact is not coupled with the actual sounds of their distress (thankfully).

There's a garden visible through a large picture window on one wall: the plants are all frozen over and the statuary is weeping blood. Thunder booms in the distance but is more of a calming presence than not.

Fun times, in the dreaming unconsciousness of one Loki Laufeyson, once Odinson, now mostly just Loki.

Oddly enough: Loki himself is not immediately present. Where does Clint focus his attention?
icasm: (she makes you hard)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-21 04:42 pm (UTC)(link)
The ice keeps growing, actually, moving from the window out to the wall and reaching several bookshelves. The temperature drops even lower in this room. Some of the books protest their complaint.

One of the bookshelves moves away from the wall that is half encased in ice by this point. A door opens in the wall. There is warmth, there, beyond it. Music and light and the noise of many people all in the same space.

(The library, more or less, encourages Clint to go that way. Away from the books, the furniture, the rapidly spreading cold. If he hesitates or resists it'll simply shift, force the perspective, make it so there's nowhere else for Clint to go. Up to him how that pans out.)

The doorknob is warm beneath Clint's hand and the door itself swings open at the mere suggestion of intent. Much like Loki's apartment door. The room beyond is definitely not Loki's studio apartment in Iowa.

Instead the space is massive. High ceilings. Tables of food. Some sort of feast or celebration is the first impression; the light is strange and it is difficult for Clint to get a fix on what's happening in the center of the room. Dancing, perhaps? The impression of movement, of bodies, and then that's when the clarity of the sounds catches up with the rest of it.

This is clearly an orgy of some kind.

There are no humans involved, and very few people that look even passingly human. Some are species that Clint might recognize; many are not. Some folks are dancing with one another, primarily in the nude, but most of them are fucking. None of them have noticed Clint. It's unlikely that they'd care.

Loki is not in the center of the room. He's seated on a sort of dais off to the side, drinking wine, and watching everything happening around him with a mix of pride and longing and also a distinct sense of disconnect. This is happening because of him but he is not directly involved. It's more as if he's been invoked as witness than asked to participate.

It's then that Loki notices Clint across the room, and frowns a little.
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[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-21 05:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Clint has taken his shirt off. It's a blessing, certainly, to Loki anyway that that is as far as he's opted to get in terms of disrobing. Loki hasn't stopped frowning; he has, instead, risen to his feet and crossed the space between them, picking up a handful of grapes along the way and popping one into his mouth. His eyes glance across Clint's bare skin, though it's clear in the next second that he's annoyed with himself for not resisting that particular urge.

It's clear that Loki is annoyed about something, anyway. Despite the air of physical desire fulfilled, despite the various states of undress of those around them, Loki is in a collared shirt, buttoned up to his throat, and he shoves the hand that is not holding grapes into the pocket of his slacks. There's a sense of tension in him, muscles taunt and unrelated like he's holding something back and possibly not doing too well, physically, as a result. "The party is in our honor," he explains, "but it is not for us."

Question is, does he mean the royal 'we' or he and Clint, specifically? The answer, it would seem, is yes. Loki eats another grape. "I didn't think this was quite your 'scene', as it were, anyway."
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[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-21 05:32 pm (UTC)(link)
"I know." He has no doubt of that, actually. "You're not unwelcome. But the library is not safe for you right now if you're alone." The library was his sanctuary for many years, in Asgard. The one in his mind holds a host of horrors both known and unspeakable, alongside no real desire to allow Clint to come to harm within its walls.

So it pushed him out and further into the dream, toward the dreamer.

Something else for him to be annoyed with himself about, clearly. Later.

Now he has to manage... this. Clint here, in the vortex of Loki's unexpressed physical desire. He glances at himself and rolls another grape between his tongue and the roof of his mouth. "I suppose I am." He holds the grapes out towards Clint as an offering.
icasm: (when the sun came up)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-21 06:10 pm (UTC)(link)
"It would be." He isn't sure if he should offer to take Clint back there, in part because it would mean that Clint would have to put his shirt back on. The hand in his pocket flexes, relaxes, at how much that actually carries weight against what Loki might consider. "Do you wish to return?" Politely inquiring minds want to know.

Something Clint might pick up on, or become aware of over time: the lack of violence in the setting amongst the orgy. There are no restraints, no methods of inflicting pain. Some partners are rougher in their actions than others but everyone seems to be rather invested in having a good time for good time's sake.

Loki raises an eyebrow as Clint looks him over. Finishes his grape. Takes his other hand out of his pocket in order to wipe away a bit of wine from the corner of Clint's mouth with his thumb as Loki's own jaw clenches.
icasm: (oh yeah?)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-21 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
"What makes you imagine that I keep track of a Midgardian calendar?" Strange lie, Loki, considering you know when his children's birthdays are. Still. His pulse has ticked up and the slacks he has on are tight, much in the style he prefers in public. Or preferred, actually, before he stopped being himself in public.

Every time he does anything in the world with the Barton children he's shapeshifted himself into someone else. For years it's been that way.

Anyway. The tight pants? Not hiding his physical reactions to Clint's touch. Loki's nostrils flare. "I know what I want. It's considered a cause for celebration. I can't have what I want. So I am not allowed to participate."

Someone laughs, near the center of the room, before it becomes a different sound entirely. Loki's spine stiffens. They are laughing at him; he's laughing at himself. He knows himself better than that, especially here.

Thing is, he wasn't lying. But Clint's arrival has changed things. The real within the unreal. And even though Loki is more experienced with shaping dreams to his will, he cannot deny that Clint has power here.

"That is not how I think you would put it. Would you like to hear how I think you would put it?"

No one's laughing now.
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[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-21 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
"I died and was resurrected. That deserves a party I suppose but that's not what the party is for." Loki takes a sharp breath. He'd had a point, before Clint neatly sidestepped it with his own interpretation which is not entirely wrong but it is missing some crucial details.

"I got what I wanted. Past tense. I know what I want. Present tense." Still following, his eyebrows seem to ask.

He'd had a point. He knew what he was going to say but now he's irritated and annoyed because why would Loki wait to throw a party, even an imaginary one? Does Clint not know him at all?

"What I want is you, Clint. Still present tense. What I want is to fuck you. Not in a dream, but in reality. Present tense. In that tiny fucking apartment where I have fucked no one. Perfect participle."
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icasm: (me and you)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-21 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
"See, that wasn't terribly difficult, was it? Congratulations. You have figured me out."

He actually is, oddly enough, proud of Clint for getting it. He's just also an asshole and this is his brain, he's allowed to be cagey and poetic about what things mean.

"Besides, a romp implies a passing fancy." Or it did when he was first introduced to the term.

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[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-21 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
"I don't understand the necessity to mock me for this; do you think, perhaps, that I am not mocking myself enough already?" Does he want those things? Some of them. Mostly he wants, what he manages to imagine he wants anyway, is Clint holding him gently and fucking him more or less mercilessly.

The 'being kept' part is actually what hits all the notes, there. Currently anyway. He's (generally) open to change.

Clint's looming, pinning presence isn't doing Loki's arousal any favors. He's coming to accept that it's just Clint, no matter what he's doing, that his body is responding to (or even just the subconscious representation of his body, whatever); when he's focused on Loki, anyway.

"No, I don't tend to." Not to say he hasn't, but. He clearly isn't.
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icasm: (don't think I'll ever get it now)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-22 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
By the time Loki is being led into the center of the room his cock is aching, leaking just a little, his face is flushed and his hands don't know what to do with themselves. He's aware that Clint still has his pants and boots on and that he is, by contrast, utterly naked; the blushing has spread from his face down his chest and his breathing is heavy.

The party around them moves, and shifts. The collected partygoers murmur their approval as they pass, some with amusement, some jeering. There are cushioned benches before them now, some with high arched backs and curved sides, but some that seem to only function as a soft place to bend someone over.

Loki stops, at this point, in part because he doesn't want to make a decision about which experience they're having. Since clearly an experience is to be had.

"Dare I ask what you have in mind, exactly?" Or is Loki just supposed to wait and see?
icasm: (in between)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-22 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
It's impossible to see what happens to Loki when Clint leaves, the way that the rest of the bodies involved immediately fill the space in his wake. Not that anyone is assuming he attempts to look and find out, at least not before he finishes that goblet of wine. He does stumble, when Clint shoves him, glaring at the man's retreating back over his shoulder before he, too, loses sight of Clint.

When Clint finishes with that drink something hits him square in the shoulder. A book. Of sex positions, actually, and Loki is furiously climbing his way out of the throngs of people, who are not shy about touching him now but he is also not shy about shoving people's hands off of him.

He's wearing a robe but doesn't bother belting it.

"Must you always be such an ass?" He should have convinced the library to let him freeze, clearly.
icasm: (something really real)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-22 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
"If I wanted to fuck random strangers my mind made up to specifically not remind me of you, I would be doing that right now. As you can well see, I am not." Loki snatches his own goblet off the table, folding an arm across his chest and glowering before taking a long drink. He can't get drunk in most situations on Midgard but he can get extraordinarily fucked up in his own dreamscape, so why the Hel not. "I don't want to fuck strangers, and it is causing me problems, and that is how we got to this."
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[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-22 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
Loki's eyebrows go up because he cannot believe that Clint actually suggested that, and then down into a glower. "I don't want a godsdamned pile. What the Hel is wrong with you?"

Honestly, in a different situation Loki would be... more understanding of Clint's positionality here. But right now he's sexually frustrated, with the source of his desire more or less telling him to hurry up and get over it with some dream version, and while Loki could do that (and has, in the last few months, at least once) he doesn't want to.

It's not very satisfying, for him, is the problem. And Clint is standing right in front of him. "I'm going to my rooms," he announces to the party at large. "Have fun." That is directed at Clint before he turns on his heel and walks out, an archway appearing in front of him and leading off somewhere else. Somewhere not the library. He drains the goblet and drops it on the flor as he exits.
icasm: (I had a cane)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-22 02:36 am (UTC)(link)
Is Loki aware of what Clint is getting up to? Yes. More or less. It's difficult not to be, honestly, when Clint is his own force to be reckoned with in his brain. And yes, the open entryway had been an invitation, because Loki cannot and will not shut Clint out completely even when he is being the most frustrating creature Loki has ever had the pleasure of knowing.

He's not surprised that he isn't followed, and he won't admit to disappointment either. Instead, while Clint is enjoying the grapes and the wine and the revelry, Loki gets extraordinarily high, a sensation he has missed quite a good deal, on Midgard. Which is somewhere he's chosen to exile himself, it would appear, until either the planet crumbles to dust or Clint decides to handle matters himself, whichever comes first.

The orgy participants let out little laughs and cheers as Clint joins them. They ask questions before they touch, but they are very engaged. Very thorough. Very invested in his enjoyment, and their own. However. Every party ends eventually.

There's a sense of people drifting off from the margins of the event, before there are fewer and fewer participants and then, suddenly, just Clint. At one of the chaises in the center of the room. It's clean, at least. Across the room is Loki, robe finally tied shut, holding a goblet of wine very loosely and looking less peevish and more simply unimpressed.

"You couldn't figure out how to leave, could you? Did it ever occur to you to ask anyone?"
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[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-22 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
Loki rolls his eyes at being flipped off and simply has another sip of wine. "Well they would have told you, fake people or no. Besides, you clearly weren't too discerning in what you were willing to ask them." Nosewrinkle. Really, Clint. "Do you need a towel? A basin of water?"
icasm: (it's a lush)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-22 01:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Loki's nostrils flare and his head tilts in a way that implies he is displeased with Clint's particular choice of words. He sees Clint's attempt at... redirection or perhaps just his awareness that it was the wrong thing to say, and he knows Clint often doesn't say the right thing to begin with, but.

Still.

Loki turns away from him and waves his hand. The sensation of being dunked in warm water hits Clint full force for several moments before it dissipates and Clint is left sitting there, clean and only a tiny bit damp.

Loki doesn't turn back around. Apparently the taunt about touching was not taken as invitation. Apparently the strawberries on the table are more interesting than Clint right now.

"There was a time in which dreaming about sex with you would have been a welcome and enjoyable distraction from the active desire that plagues my waking hours." The problem is that it doesn't hold up. Doesn't exhaust and satisfy. It more or less feels like a daydream and not worth it, at that.
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icasm: (coming back my way)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-22 07:13 pm (UTC)(link)
"I do know it's complicated." Loki appears frustrated, voice tight, muscles taunt. Still not turning around. He picks up a strawberry, eyes focused on it and attention wholly elsewhere. "It is complicated for you. That you care, that I desire. It is complicated for me." For the same reasons but... not exactly.

Another complication though not one Loki is unused to. Since when do his desires and motivations align perfectly with someone else?

The problem of complications, again. To desire softness when there has been none desired before. From this man. When everything Loki learns about their connection and everything he is informs him that he is likely to continue desiring from this man for as long as he lives.

Frankly terrifying, thank you very much.

Somehow it was easier when he wanted a violent end that Clint was reluctant and unwilling to provide. Yes he was frustrated and angry at not being granted what he wanted but he'd found a way to get it anyway and then everything changed.

Or it didn't. Perhaps it's more of a losing of artifice. Perhaps he was correct, that he needed to die or else he'd be unable to change.

(Frankly terrifying, thank you very much.)

"I want it to balance, perhaps. A concept I tend to despise." Clint is his weapon yes. He tends to turn his weapons on himself from time to time. To test their sharpness. To improve his own.

Loki sighs. "Do you want a robe?"
Now, he'll turn around.
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icasm: (the lines begin to blur)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-29 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Loki notices. How could he not, when Clint seems more Real than anything has any right to be, when Clint is honest and exposed and shining, but clearly opting not to be exactly that?

He should look away, perhaps, and grant the other man a modicum of... decency, perhaps, or even just the suggestion of it. But this is Loki, in his own mind, dreaming his own dreams. He's already turned around; he makes a gesture with his hands, summoning a robe not unlike his own, expensively made, a little heavy, long and flowing; he doesn't look away.

Instead, he walks the space between them and offers the folded robe to Clint. He could ask for clarification; if the things Clint desires are not housed and created from within himself then where else could they come from? But Loki knows the answer runs the risk of being just as complicated, just as frustrating, as any conversation on the nature of desire or the locus of where they begin between them tend to be, and so he leaves it.

"...do you want me to show you the way out?"

Well. Mostly leaves it.
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icasm: (I'm gonna fight 'em off)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-30 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
Loki gives Clint a small smile. It means I know these things already; it means that Loki understands Clint's reluctance towards death between them, again, here in this new and yet familiar landscape. "I trust you," is what he says, instead.

Because he does trust Clint, even where and where Clint doesn't trust himself. That is regarding the extraction of Clint from his dreams, yes, but mostly it is about the idea of balance between them. Clint doesn't trust himself to determine where the line is; Loki trusts that when Clint becomes concerned that he's crossed it, that is when Loki should recognize it exists.

But that is a lot to put on anyone's shoulders and perhaps this is enough.

"It's not the only way." And perhaps, once this happens again (and he knows it will, now; the door is now just an entryway with no real sense of division, how could it not happen again?) he will begin the process of instructing a mortal in how to navigate others' dreams. "But I can wake myself easily."
icasm: (can't help myself)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-30 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Clint licks his lips and Loki's nostrils flare. There is, briefly, the awareness of something else introduced into the dream, but Clint blinks, and it's gone.

He won't ask.

"Yes. There are many ways, and one way, in the end." A slight lift of one shoulder. "You have to believe you can. The rest is merely the structure in which a mind could determine they possess the ability to do it, but that can be the part that takes the longest to learn."
icasm: (coming back my way)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-30 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
Is Loki going to ask Nate what that particular reference might mean once he's awake? Signs point to yes. As it is, Loki does shift himself out of Clint's way as he walks back to the tables and their offerings, turning in place and folding his hands behind his back.

He's not looking at Clint when the next question is asked. Of course the answer is 'no'. Of course Loki doesn't make that simple. "Is that important right now?"

He could always sleep at three in the afternoon. Some other unlikely time for Clint to also be sleeping. It's fine.
icasm: (I got so many feelings)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-30 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
Why, petulant and demanding, rises to the top and is almost spoken between them before Loki swallows it down. He doesn't have to believe Clint is right; Clint believes that enough for the both of them right now anyway.

"I suppose." A shrug. His eyes slide to Clint's and then away again. "You know the answer, anyway."
icasm: (raise hell and turn it up)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-30 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
The expression Loki fixes Clint is fully unimpressed, to say the least. Does the other man really believe this is how anything works? That he could just sit in the corner of Loki's awareness and be ignored?

Seriously?

"Definitely not, don't be ridiculous." Besides the primary goal of the dream was fulfilled in the orgy and Loki's uncertain what else his mind would come up with if he were to allow it to 'keep rolling' all on its own. "Do you want to return to the library? Perhaps the garden."

His rooms are still an available locale, as well, but. He's not sure about offering that either.
icasm: (I know I should be angry)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-30 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
"I wouldn't know about most dreams," he points out, because sometimes it feels like Clint forgets he's not human and what that means. "I'm familir with my own, and more recently, yours. That encompasses the bulk of what I know on the subject."

This is his dreamscape; he knows that and is, briefly, annoyed that Clint feels the need to remind him. Like Loki isn't trying to... be considerate of the fact that Clint never intended to come here in the first place.

"Nothing in a dream," he says more tired than annoyed, suddenly, and starts walking toward the door that once led to the library. The garden, apparently. it is.
icasm: (and some rubber gloves)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-30 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
"Once or twice but in very different circumstances." Less than a dozen times, all told; not nearly enough for Loki to feel that he has any sense of what he's doing, certainly.

There are a lot of things Loki could imagine doing with Clint, here. Sparring or cuddling or reading. Showing him places Clint has never been, places long removed from the fabric of Fate. The problem is that Loki is currently much too fixated on desires unspoken and unrealized. The problem is that it doesn't feel equivalent between the two of them.

The problem is Loki wants, and is annoyed with himself for wanting. Still.

"Because I'm a Frost Giant," Loki explains. Does Clint actually know this? Nate does. Nate asked him once about what it meant to have lost everyone twice when he had to do an assignment about immigrant families for school. But Nate is very good at keeping Loki's secrets.

"Because I'm cold-hearted, perhaps." He glances over his shoulder at Clint before the throws the doors open.

The library, this time, is much more welcoming, much less a place of half-frozen and frightful things. Sure, they still exist there, but they aren't in stark focus at the moment.
icasm: (I keep on writing a sequel to stories)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-30 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
"I do enjoy it moreso than late summer." Which is when Loki's temper grows its shortest and he spends the most time isolated; being out in the heat in August or September is not his idea of a good time but often is the children's idea of a good time, so sometimes he just suffers through it all anyway.

He almost asks what Clint means by 'the usual reasons' before the laughter causes him to freeze, slightly. Clint is smiling; this is probably his doing, his own capability leaking out of him at the edges.

Loki's not sure if he's upset or excited at the prospect.

"There is an exception that proves every rule." Also, he's a contrary bitch, what do you expect?
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[personal profile] icasm 2022-08-30 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Loki stops walking, then, now that Clint is at his side; with a small frown he offers his hand. A little cooler than usual, to the touch, but that's the only real difference.

Once again, why is wondered but unspoken.

"You could if you wanted to."
icasm: (it's a funny way)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-11-07 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
"Why do you insist on this falsehood that you're simple," which is not at all what he said, Loki, but it is how it was taken apparently. Loki's hand flexes in Clint's hold but he makes no move to try to let go or pull away; if anything, he's holding a little tighter. "Why does being a no one appeal to you so much when it goes directly against everything you're comfortable with?"
icasm: (it's a cruel)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-11-09 06:24 pm (UTC)(link)
"No," Loki sighs, shaking his head. They never understand one another in the first two statements, it seems. Or even the first two hundred. "But being 'grounded', down to Earth, merely human is not a thing that determines who and what you are. Instead of wearing these things like a jacket, protection from the elements that would otherwise run roughshod over you due to your past and involvements, you... cling to them as if they were a shield. A shelter. They aren't.

Is the idea of being more, something... different from your common man, on this planet, so very frightening?"
icasm: (turning circles)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-11-09 06:43 pm (UTC)(link)
He isn't going to answer that, don't worry.

Loki thinks he understands what Clint is getting at, even if it doesn't answer his question immediately. There is something to be said for the person who does what they can merely through the strength of their own bodies, but that ignores the strengths that originate from elsewhere. Like community and resources and secret serums running through the veins.

But that's getting pedantic, perhaps; either way, Loki doesn't say anything about it, despite his clear desire to pontificate on his opinions of Clint's feelings. As per semi-usual.

To ask him what he would do if it happened to him, the way things happen to people all the time, people who don't choose but are chosen by something else, someone else, some other if not necessarily higher power... well that would be showing Loki's hand a little too much, wouldn't it?

Whenever Clint realizes he's different from the rest of humanity, well. Loki will deal with the fallout. Not a moment before.

He realizes they're meandering a little in his thoughts; a problem of traveling in dreams, he knows, and so the demigod takes a breath in, out. The door to outside, to the frozen former gardens of Asgard and several other places Loki has seen in his long life appears before them, swings out and open.

Things are still frozen, but a little less bitingly cold. Clint will know it's cold, but it poses no real risk to him now. "Here we are." That is where they were headed, right?
icasm: (but everyone's gone)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-11-09 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
One day he will beg and beseech this man to ask detailed questions of him.

Apparently, it is not this day.

As it is, Loki sighs a little at the question; he has not let go of Clint's hand and shows no particular desire to do so. Why here? Clint had wanted to see it, and does Loki know why that is? No.

Why does it exist? Well, that is a 'why' he can imagine being asked by Clint, so that will be the presupposition he runs on at this moment.

"I'm an ice giant; I enjoy when things are cold. I don't like myself; things aren't inclined to grow in hateful soil, I've found. Plus this is a collection of places that are gone, or that I can no longer reach. I like to remember them."

It's true that not much grows but there are still winter flowers and fruits in bloom in this cold garden, with it's snowed over hedges and frozen leaves. They're just tucked away, hidden in the shadows of weeping blood statues and stone benches scattered here and there.

icasm: (have to get lost)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-11-09 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
"I am often sad, I suppose," Loki admits as though he's never considered the possibility with any certainty (a Lie, if ever there was one). His hold on Clint's hand loosens, a bit, as he considers the request but it's only a heartbeat longer before he lets go completely with a nod.

"Touch whatever you like."

The problem, if a problem exists, is that in the span of not!time it's taken them to get outside Loki has accepted and come to desire even just the idea of Clint rifling through his brain, callused hands touching the spines of the books in the library, etcetera. He could let it become erotic, that sort of desire, and instinctually he wants to, but he's afraid it will bleed through in some uncomfortable way (for Clint) and so instead he allows it just to remain the wanting of a thing, for no particular reason or endgame in sight.

"Nothing will hurt you here."
icasm: (& the words are gonna bleed from me)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-11-09 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
"Not... for a very long time."

Childhood? Later. The fall from the lightbridge? Ah, yes, that's about when the possibility of happy dreams were chased out by horrible realities. And even when Loki's dreams have fleeting moments of joy, something changes the tenor, ruins the vibe.

Just like reality, in his experience. Colored and tainted by his own actions, every iota of happiness is merely snowfall in a dirty city, awaiting the shift from white to grey.

Things Loki is aware of, immediately: the conflict of texture between cold stone and Clint's warmer hands against the statue's face. The flavor of the berries in Clint's pocket (tart, like lemons if lemons were more like cherries in texture).

Things Loki is not aware of, as immediately: the way his skin has changed hues, from pale cream to a lighter shade of dusty blue, ritualized hereditary lines rising and falling in his skin like magical tattoos. He's sat down on a stone bench when it occurs to him that the air feels different on what of his skin is exposed, that his own breath no longer pools floating condensation clouds in front of his own mouth.

Uncertain how he feels about it, Loki does nothing to bring Clint's physical awareness to his transformation, but Loki's moment of surprise and then reluctant acceptance can likely be felt nonetheless.
icasm: (at the speed of sound)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-11-09 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
The fact that Clint is so rarely a man who possesses what Loki understands guile and deceitfulness to be, it goes a long way that Clint is neither upset nor startled by Loki's transformation. He turns his own hands over, palms up on his thighs, and curls his fingers inward. Even like this, his nails are pristine, clean, strong. Another sign of how unlike his brothers he has ever been, in any direction one could take that.

"I'm not upset." Honest. "I had forgotten it would happen." He's not often here, anymore. They exist, but for him, mostly to be viewed through the window. It's a strange thing, to make a memory within a place of memories, but not wholly unpleasant.

Thanks to the company. "I won't regret it."
icasm: ('cause she miss the cologne)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-11-09 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
"It is. But you're unlikely to see another. And it is... me."

Unlike Banner, he does not have the excuse of a strict alter-ego to blame on his poor choices and bad behaviors. But he does feel like there is less baggage in being a creature whose overall look he has so little control over.

As thought it were more honest, by design.

Like that has him furrowing his brow for a moment, trying to place the question and then its answer. "Oh, I saw it once in the gardens of the sultans of Krylor Five. I thought it was beautiful, and fitting. I never learned what caused it, or how they came to be that way. If it were design or chemistry or some other thing."

A shrug. He's always been a melodramatic thing.
icasm: (what are these footprints)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-11-09 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Another shrug. He's decided not to be bothered: by the shift to frost giant, by Clint's insistence that he do what makes him comfortable (the Hel is that, even? conceptually?), by the presence of that lopsided snow monstrosity claiming to be a 'man' off in the corner. Yes, he noticed it. No, he doesn't care, even though it's uglier than sin and not on purpose.

It reminds him of the Bartons. The one here and the ones sleeping elsewhere.

"There's a maze, here." If Barton wants to literally get lost, but Loki suspects that wouldn't exactly be the case. "With a temple at the center. That's about all that's left out here."
icasm: (I'm gonna serve it to you)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-11-09 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Loki shakes his head a little. "Your presence is no longer a disruption." In part because Loki has decided to roll with it; as long as Clint is with him, whatever he sees or touches or interacts with is fine. Loki will see to it. "Besides, the orgy was mostly an exercise in the comingling of praise and self-pity. Not much was lost.

There is the library, which is still a little more dangerous than being out here, or there are my rooms. You've seen the hall. That's all there is, really, or at least most of the time."

He rises to his feet and points at the snowman. "Do you think I summoned that into being?"
icasm: (she gets inside)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-11-09 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Loki doesn't understand what he reads to be Clint's fear about what's happening here. Is it power? Is it about power over Loki? He knows that prying won't necessarily net him an answer that makes any more sense than the things he's observed, but he does wave a hand toward the snowman —— you he thinks at it, are not to go ANYWHERE — and then he and Clint are on their feet and moving toward the doors to the library once more.

There's no rules that state they have to traverse one to reach the other, but Loki knows Clint was fascinated by the library and he wishes to see the other man there; there's nothing to say they can't visit both locations.

So. Inside, first, and then into the library, which is markedly less freezing than the first time Clint was here.
icasm: (the choice is yours)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-11-10 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
"It seems likely." Completely unaffected air you've got there, Loki, but; Look. He may not have put it here but it's here now and here it shall remain. Clint made it happen (whether or not he wants to admit it or likes that truth) and Loki loves Clint, so.

It. Stays. Put.

He remains a frost giant when they're inside, which is more a mark of how comfortable he is with Clint knowing his secrets as they are and having less to do with how cold the library may or may not be still. "Purposefully damaging the books would probably be painful in a way I wouldn't enjoy, but I doubt you'd do that anyway." Plus the library would likely defend itself from such an attack as it stands. "It should be fine. I'll let you know if anything feels... off, I suppose."

Mostly he wants to stand there and watch Clint handle the binding, the pages, moving drawings of things Loki knows, places he's been, people he's met and encountered along the way. This is a book of languages; the faces in it are of those who taught or opened the door for Loki to learn a new dialect, to expand the AllSpeak, to study the written word as it was intended to be understood.

It's a pretty heavy tome.
icasm: (and a smoke alarm)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-11-10 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
Loki chuckles a little; he can't help it at all, not really. Is that where any of those books belong? The language one, yes, perhaps, but the book on weather should be several aisles over while the tome on snake sex (appropriately black as it is bound) should be much farther afield. What's happening, Loki guesses, is that he thinks of certain things when Clint is around. Snakes and arrows and cornfield skies. The difficulty of communication (yes, he caught the hint, thanks). The pervasive desire for touch, sex, connection between himself and this man.

Sex as a snake is definitely a form of communal connection. It would be easier than this dance they've engaged in now, certainly, but perhaps not as much fun in the long run.

"You don't like snakes?" A raised eyebrow.
icasm: (I lost a bet to a guy)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-11-10 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
Caught, easily, and then shelved behind him.

"My what now?" No, he doesn't, he's not an ancient Earth librarian after all, "I'm going to presume that is some method of organization and you being here has made things more... flexible, in terms of its location in the library. So no, I'm not doing it on purpose. Ask it for what you want," he offers, extending a blue hand towards the stacks, "otherwise it will continue filtering through my own thoughts as you literally rifle through whatever is at the top of my mind at the moment."
icasm: (eliminate my pride)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-11-10 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
Loki doesn't recognize the song, which is saying something... it must be from some part of Clint's past that Loki wasn't a part of, or some event where there was music but Loki wasn't there? Either way, he's not displeased, it isn't bad music, it's just interesting, and Loki tilts his head a little to better catch the snatches of it.

He knows where it would be loudest: the hall/ballroom/location of the former orgy. That is where all celebrations are loudest. But it could also be centered in his own rooms. That, he supposes, depends on how comfortable Clint is thinking about that particular location right now.

"What is your favorite type of dance?" He could ask Clint's favorite instrument but the man might say 'bass guitar' and Loki will have to groan into the next millenia.
icasm: (no liquor left)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-11-10 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
One day, Loki decides, he will expose this man to some blessed culture. Or at least the proper terms for the things he likes. Loki also enjoys a good club scene, but for very different reasons, and while this is good music to move to it's not quite that.

"Did you ever learn to dance or has it always just been a matter of the heart meets rhythm?"
autolatrical: (I won't be gentle)

[personal profile] autolatrical 2022-11-10 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
"Waltzing is good." Loki's mouth raises in a half-smile and he shrugs. "The folk dances were mostly lost to the atrocities that were courtly dances by the time Ragnarok rolled around, but waltzing is a perennial favorite. Tango might be fun, actually. It's up close fast dancing. I have memory dream books on dancing because I love dancing and because I'm obsessed with knowing and learning things."
icasm: (I just wanna feel somethin')

[personal profile] icasm 2022-11-10 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
"Your children have." Clubbing, parties, that kind of thing. Loki's smile is soft, fond. The music changes; a tune that seems ever fluid, the sort of thing you absolutely love but won't be able to quite remember the next morning.

Loki pushes himself off from the bookcase behind him, extending a hand out toward Clint. "Will you dance with me? I promise you won't have to count."
icasm: (because I can't forget)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-11-10 09:42 pm (UTC)(link)
"I would like that." Not much reason to be coy about it; he enjoys spending time with the Bartons, he is connected to Clint, he loves parties. Dancing, dressing up, showing out. What's not to like?

The music swells. The bookcases move to make room. It's just them and Loki more or less likes it that way, for now. In the waking world, things are different.

He'll take every moment he can steal with abandon.

There's no leading or following in this dance. It's not slow but not so fast as to end up out of breath too fast. The music teaches the steps; this is dream logic, yes, but also the truth of this particular trip of composition.

Loki has always loved this dance. It changes every time. And Clint doesn't step on his toes even once.
icasm: (drunk pre-meds)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-11-11 02:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Loki isn't so caught up in the magic of dancing in his own dream that he doesn't notice the costume change, or how tight and low both articles of clothing are. At some point he, too, had changed, from the ice giant in robes back to his more or less Asgardian-appearing self, wearing jeans and a button-up with short sleeves and a collar that isn't done.

If things were perfect... if things could be perfect, even if only in a dream, Loki would kiss Clint as the song ends and they'd both wake up after that moment and life would go on. But Loki doesn't really believe in perfect. Not for him and not for his dreams. So when the music ends and it's clear he wants to kiss Clint, he doesn't. Just offers the man a smile and lets go of his hand.

"That was a lot of fun." A gesture towards Clint's torso. "I like the outfit."
icasm: (follow the leader)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-11-12 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
There's a startled sort of amusement on Loki's face that replaces the fond, wanting smile he'd had, as Clint surges forward in time with the music and grabs his hand. Does Loki know tango? Yes, and between dream!logic and desire and the fact that Loki would pour at least a third of the things he knows directly into Clint's brain if he wasn't sure it would hurt the other man somehow, the execution is flawless.

It's been decades since Loki has done anything this intricate, and more years than he'd like to bother counting since he's let anyone lead him across a dance floor, no matter who or what he looks like. This? This is better than nice, this gets his heart racing and blood pumping and part of him wishes it was happening in the waking world just so that someone could take a photo or a video of it. Permanence, in a digital sense; Loki fears his memory might never do this justice.

One of the things he'd forgotten about tango is how much of the dance moves involve the following partner being softly and sensually dragged across the dancefloor by the lead. The library is nothing if not accommodating to this detail, and while, since it's a dream, there's not much point to Loki being breathless and aching pressed against Clint's leg at the end of the dance...

Some things are just true, it would seem.

Catching his breath takes a few long moments, where he has his eyes closed and is remembering deep in and then slow, deep out. He's not sure what he expects to see when he opens his eyes to look at Clint again, but. He can only forestall it so long.
icasm: (and a party hat)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-11-13 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
Loki goes when Clint pulls him with absolutely no resistance. It doesn't even cross his mind to pull away or give them any time to consider what they're doing. What Clint has started.

There's a brief... Something. Not of hesitation exactly but of savoring the moment.

And then Loki has moved forward, pressing his lips against Clint's. It's not at all violent, not from him, not yet anyway, but it is passionate. Full of heady longing and rough desire. Loki's hands are fisted in the material of Clint's shirt and it's going to be very difficult to convince him to let go, at this rate.
icasm: (it feels alright)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-11-13 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Through the power of it being his own damned dream, Loki is aware of it. Aware of what it might mean. Perhaps this is a Clint before Loki met him, or just as. One without the shared baggage of what he'd done, been driven to do, between them.

He's not drawing attention to it. He's not asking questions. He's just matching the intensity of the kisses long enough to up the ante, to graduate to deeper kisses and biting teeth and pressing the palms of his hands against Clint's chest beneath his shirt.

There is, in his mind, a sense of impending doom. But it's not at a level of anxiety, yet, and so Loki ignores it, or at least notes it and moves on. The impending doom could be anything, and there are no guarantees he'll get this opportunity again.
icasm: (to where you came from)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-11-14 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Loki should ask if Clint is certain about this (he won't) or if they should stop (he doesn't) long before he considers the possibility of dropping to his knees in front of his man, whose consciousness is present in Loki's own dreams, where things have an effect on the real-world.

Surely.

Well. Does any of that sound like Loki?

He does drop to his knees and here he hesitates, mostly to look up at Clint's face and see what kind of an effect this is having on the other man. If there's hesitation or revulsion in Clint's expression, he'll pivot, but otherwise?

Despite the now constant chiming of warning bells in the back of his mind, he will get this man's cock in his mouth.
icasm: (a drain pipe)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-11-14 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
When Clint pitches forward Loki panics, centering his emotions on the need for the other man to wake up without head trauma; whatever he does works, either in spite of or in combination with the blow to the head (it's a book about Clint, he realizes, one that focuses on all the physical aspects of him, of fucking course). Clint vanishes and the bookcase continues to tilt forward, raining other Clint Barton-related texts onto Loki's head as he laughs.

He wakes up laughing (also with a sore head), and while it takes him a few moments to pull himself together, Loki does decide to go against his better instincts and texts Clint instead of waiting for a text to be headed his way. Or an impromptu visit. However the man might decide to reach out anywhere between an hour and a month from now.

I hope your head doesn't hurt too much.
icasm: (Default)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-11-15 03:16 am (UTC)(link)
Loki would become worried if not for the window and the lack of cryptic or less than cryptic texts from the Barton's children. So he's not worried.

Annoyed. Pressed. Frustrated. All of the above, but not worried.

Clint is left on read for several hours. Just three, or four. Until dinner, or maybe a little after that.

Perhaps a little.
icasm: (lying on the floor)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-11-15 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
Somehow I honestly doubt it is on the table as it stands, books or no.

He sighs, sets the phone down. That was unfairly handled, but. What did he expect?

What did Loki expect?

Something else, something different, something that matched how he'd felt inside after learning how Clint might taste, without violence, in more than one sense of the word.

I suppose there's a chance I'm wrong.

Ugh. Ok he should really. Get a drink, or something
icasm: (Default)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-11-15 03:56 am (UTC)(link)
This answer is timely, at least. And Loki is... Trying. He's just also still annoyed.

Only if you want to.

You know me. I can always talk.
icasm: (Default)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-11-15 04:46 am (UTC)(link)
I'm well aware of what we'd need to talk about. But if you don't feel that it is necessary for your own well-being I'm hesitant to bother with it for the sake of only my own.

We aren't good at it besides.
Edited (Words. Phone tagging) 2022-11-15 04:46 (UTC)
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[personal profile] icasm 2022-11-15 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I hope not because I do not want to talk about it.
icasm: (Default)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-11-15 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Loki considered letting Clint's call go to voicemail, which he checks once a month at the most frequent interval. He does tend to save messages he receives from Clint's children, though, no matter when they were left or how long they are. Sentiment, or something. However, after the ringtone beings to repeat he picks up, sighing loudly into the receiver.

What Clint says surprises him, somehow. He'd thought that perhaps they were back to square negative five thousand, or something.

"What would you have us talk about instead? Other dreams we've had?"
icasm: (Default)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-11-15 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
"...alright." Loki sighs again, though a great deal quieter this time around, and settles himself into the couch, summoning his tea from the kitchen and allowing his cat to curl up at his hip while he sets the phone down and puts Clint on speaker. What? Tea takes two hands if one's doing it right.

"We could start with a simple exchange of information. One of us says something that is true, and the other responds, so on and so forth, until we need a new topic.

I can begin, even," and before Clint has much leeway to interrupt one way or another, "by saying that I thought perhaps you were angry with me, but now I am unsure that is true." Was true? Maybe. He doesn't care if Clint was angry with him but does care if Clint remains angry with him.
icasm: (Default)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-11-15 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
"Good. Because it is a difficult thing to tolerate, you being angry with me. And now I feel like a depiction of a human teenager, ugh." Loki takes a sip of tea. "Tell me something you're concerned about that has little or nothing to do with me?" Isn't that what friends do? Discuss their lives in common, and otherwise?

He does want to be Clint's friend. He wants more, certainly, but none of this will work if they're constantly at odds. Even he, chaos incarnate, is aware of that much.
icasm: (feel like a person again)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-11-15 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
"It's my understanding that friends know things about one another's lives, concerns, whathaveyou." Offhand. Like he hadn't thought about it, or read books on the subject, or read articles, or countless internet forums and memes and short videos by humans struggling to emotionally connect with other humans.

Like he hasn't done research on the topic.

"The quiet is one of the hardest parts of living alone. Or alone-ish, in your case. Sometimes a benefit but often it's just... empty." Smaller spaces are easier to manage, in that way, but Clint isn't looking for solutions or suggestions so Loki doesn't mention it.
icasm: (you might pass out in)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-11-15 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
"I like quiet in the sense of not having other people around in certain situations. Reading, painting, studying, that sort of thing." The audio equivalent of a shrug at the end of that sentence. "When I was a child I thought that I preferred quiet, but what I actually preferred was knowing when and how I was going to be interrupted from the quiet.

I'm used to it, I suppose? I don't know that I would say that I like it better now. I wouldn't live with strangers, however, at this rate, ever again if it could at all be avoided."
icasm: (Default)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-11-16 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
"It is nice, yes." Lonely and strange at its worst times, but it remains the least stressful living arrangement he's had in quite a while. "I'm too intense for most, whether or not I'm already annoyed.

"Will you become the sort of people who host parties in order to fil the house with noise? I imagine not." But it does beg the question, what will the Bartons do with an empty house?
icasm: (lil' zip for the trip)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-11-16 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
That seems like a late point to make decisions, but he supposes something should be said for avoidance tendencies.

"I'm not concerned about that, really." Mostly because he and Nate already have a shared language of memes and strange references to build off of, and he already texts Loki more often than his siblings do. "I am concerned about you, in the future, in a quiet house. What happens when you're bored more often than not?"
icasm: (one by one by one)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-11-16 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
"Hm."

Another sip of tea. He's not sure how he feels about either of those particular options, honestly. Clint and Laura going back into the field make him feel like his own actions towards making Clint stronger and longer lived than the typical earthbound human would probably hit the light nearly immediately.

"I would prefer you about as close to death as you are today."

A soft scoff. "You know the offer stands to see other worlds, at the very least. I am not going to force it on you." Once again, skirting too close to things they don't talk about. "Not this decade."
icasm: (raise hell and turn it up)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-11-16 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
"You say that as though I don't have the means to keep tabs on where you are when you wander away from home." A beat. Loki finishes his tea and sets it down on the coffee table. "Do you want me to convince you?"
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[personal profile] icasm 2022-11-16 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
"Well if I'm to take people on a vacation there's any number of spots." Loki hums. "Gibborum is beautiful mid-winter, Indigarr has gorgeous sunsets and fascinating horticulture. I could do a whirlwind tour, I suppose. Sights to see around the galaxy."
icasm: (Default)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-11-16 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
A long pause on Loki's end. "I don't know, really. It's been... complicated."

People usually know who he is. Trouble occurs. Memories haunt him.

"Perhaps somewhere new."
icasm: (somethin' really real)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-11-16 06:03 pm (UTC)(link)
"There are some places. Some of them possibly mythical, the rest simply uninterested in contact with the broader outside world. Should I compile a list?"
icasm: (Default)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-11-16 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
That's too bad because Loki would really like to see Wakanda.

"That's fine. This is an exercise, anyway."
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[personal profile] icasm 2022-11-16 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Loki makes a sound between humming and sighing. "An exercise meaning practice, not in futility, actually. I can send a list.

Anything else I should send you?"
icasm: (behind a cigarette)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-11-17 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
"Hm." There's the noise of Loki getting up, going to the kitchen, going through his cabinets. "Do you want pharmaceuticals or magic?"
icasm: (Default)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-11-17 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
"I can send items with magical properties, or I could send a potion of sorts. It would be an object, not... raw power. Is this for now or later?"
icasm: (the danger gets me high)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-11-17 06:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Things that'll make interesting topics of conversation in a year or two, certainly.

"Ah, I see." The rattle of glass bottles being moved around. "She did. Some of my fondest memories are with her, learning magic and potioncraft.

Do you have any good memories with your mother?"
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[personal profile] icasm 2022-11-18 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
He can. It's nice, actually. "I have no reasons to believe otherwise. You've done well for yourself, to remain true to those dreams in the first place."

His mother, honestly, would be amazed that he decided to live here. On Earth. In this place.
icasm: (in a final pose)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-11-22 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Loki takes in a sharp breath, says nothing for a moment. Memories of his mother often hurt. The loss feels both prescient at all times and monumentally secondhand. "She would have liked you."
icasm: (but that's what I'll do)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-12-03 08:58 am (UTC)(link)
"What's not to like?" Don't answer that, Clint. "And yet she managed to raise you, or so one presumes." It's meant as a compliment, though in a very vague way; Loki is concerned that if he is too direct in his regard toward Clint he'll just get rebuffed.
icasm: (it's true but)

[personal profile] icasm 2022-12-05 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
"Well you already know my opinion on that matter." Whether or not Clint turned out 'okay' is something that, by and large, Loki feels is a matter of understatement. His children are wonderful and the world is safer because of him. Wouldn't that count towards being more than just 'okay'?

But he's trying rather hard not to start an argument on this phone call.

"I'm sorry she didn't get to see your farmstead."
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[personal profile] icasm 2022-12-06 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
A sigh, not as sharp as it might be otherwise. "You are more than merely okay, but that may be an argument I'd be better placed taking up with a brick wall, yes? Because that is how you feel. That you aren't."
icasm: (in a Chiffon skirt)

teenagers.

[personal profile] icasm 2022-12-05 09:01 pm (UTC)(link)
There's a carnival of some kind going on here.

That's what originally drew Loki's attention to this place. Games of chance (more or less), fried foods, bright colors. Loud children and families. It's bright and colorful and much more along the lines of what Loki would be interested in seeing than the things that his father and brother are up to right now. Politicking and feats of amazing strength, etcetera, etcetera.

Loki ditched that scene almost as fast as he could. Was he interested in other realms? Definitely. But he wanted to know about the people, not the governments or the ones who had all the power. Eventually they would die off, or the people would replace them, and things would change. Boring in the extreme.

Ultimately, though, Loki finds himself wandering beyond the borders of the carnival towards some fields, following an odd but familiar sound. Odd because he knows what it is — the sound of an arrow being loosed and then striking a target, or at least various targets — but not how it's happening to be here. On Midgard. In the 1980s or whatever their calendar reads.

(One of the hardest parts of traveling between realms is that there is not any sort of unified calendar. Loki gets it but hates it simultaneously.)

The point is, Midgardians have broadly moved on from archery and arrows to metal projectiles, Loki knows to be true. So it's weird that anyone could do it in the first place, much less strike a target with as much frequency as Loki hears. So it's weird. A puzzle to be solved. Loki moves silently through sparse woods and fields of grain alike until he reaches the source of the sounds: a man, no, a boy closer to his own age equivalent, surrounded by targets made of various materials. Some bottles, some actual targets, some just... various and sundry objects, held aloft by heavy string or rope.

It's impressive, the amount of skill he (Loki is guessing at the pronouns) has in the first place. In an outmoded technology, at that. He doesn't miss a single shot he takes, in the ten, fifteen minutes Loki spends watching, and it's doubtful that any of the earlier shots were misses either.

Something happens as Loki watches him. Stares at the way his muscles move underneath his shirt, the form his body takes as he draws the bow. It's a buzzing in his head, a weight in his stomach. He wants to stand behind the other boy, to run his fingers across his shoulders as he pulls the bowline taut. Wants to gather some of the sweat at his brow on his fingertips and see how it tastes.

Now. Loki is neither sheltered nor a fool, despite his age; Thor has had an interest in various people of an assortment of genders, defined and otherwise by this point, much to Odin's amusement and Frigga's concern, but Loki has never felt interested enough in anyone to bother entertaining them, or the idea of their naked bodies in his presence. Before today.

The other boy has stopped shooting while Loki has puzzled this new feeling over, he realizes... because, of course, the other boy has to go and collect his arrows from their locations now that his quiver is empty before he can set them loose again, and Loki purposefully decides to step on a twig in order to make his presence known. "You're a good archer," he announces, raising his eyebrows. "I didn't know people bothered learning how, here, anymore." He gives a smile that he hopes indicates that he's not a dangerous threat (to this other person). "Hi. I'm Loki."
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[personal profile] icasm 2022-12-06 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
"I know where the... fair is," a dismissive handwave behind him that is still unerringly in the correct direction, "I'm not interested in that anymore." He hadn't thought of challenging the other boy to a contest if skill — too fascinated in the moment, clearly — but it's not the worst idea ever presented to him. "You are a great archer, but. You don't know me. I could… make you flee for your coin." Is that how that phrase works? Nose wrinkle. "Besides. If it was a prize game what would I even win?" Said offhandedly in the tone of someone who is pretending very hard to seem bored when they are the complete opposite. "Your name, maybe? Hm. You could lie, though. You think I'm just some dumb kid.

Something more real, then. Three truths."

Loki dematerializes in a poof of green and gold sparks before reappearing a little closer, pulling one of the arrows embedded deep in tree bark with ease. "We could use your bow. Each of us sets the targets for the other. Or just points and decides. No magic, no tricks. Three truths. If we tie, we both share."

He offers the arrow to the other boy. "Or we could not. You could just tell me."
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[personal profile] icasm 2022-12-06 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
"I'm Asgardian, not a fairy. Which doesn't mean much to Midgardians like you, in this part of this planet..." Loki twirls the arrow on his fingertips since the other boy is clearly resistant to taking it back, rotating it around with speed and grace like one might a switchblade. "You would probably have to go, ah, further northwest than this continent can reach to find people who'd recognize the word alone as what it is anymore." He shrugs and changes hand with the arrow, still twirling. "Godhood is weird like that."

Loki gives Clint a slightly more genuine smile. Mischievous and perhaps a little shy, all things considered. "Anyway, you should tell me your name. It's only fair; i told you mine. I haven't even lied at all and I usually do because people are so boring sometimes, especially when you first meet them."
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[personal profile] icasm 2022-12-06 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
Loki's eyes go a little wide when Clint snatches the arrow from him. A bit of shock plus some admiration with a dash of refusal to pout. "Yes, that's true. Not many vikings left now, or at least not people calling themselves that. Plus some of the modern intense worshippers are kind of crazed, even for me."

Nazis. It's Nazis he's thinking of.

"Clint. Is it short for something? Why are you out here alone? Do you live by yourself? You don't like it here, and it is boring on this planet.

Maybe you should see a different one."
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[personal profile] icasm 2022-12-06 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
"You're interesting. You can shoot arrows, yes, and that is also interesting but. The why of you being interesting is different."

Loki stays in one spot and watches Clint, hands at his sides. "You must be alone. You haven't said anything about parents or going home. Are you a runaway?"
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[personal profile] icasm 2022-12-06 04:09 am (UTC)(link)
Loki does, in fact, hold still, though one eyebrow is immediately up.

He's rewarded with his momentary patience with the soft swoosh of an arrow going through his hair near his ear. Loki whips his head around to see the hair pinned down to the tree bark.

"I've... sort of run away. I got bored with the politics, I don't think anyone should blame me for that, and I will go home. Eventually. So not really a runaway, like you are."

"That was exciting." Hope you're prepared to keep that lock of hair for the rest of your life Clint, natural or otherwise.
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[personal profile] icasm 2022-12-06 06:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Loki is clearly pleased by the fact that Clint keeps the lock of his hair. Maybe it means Clint feels it too, the sensation as though the Norns themselves were pounding a gong where his heartbeat should be.

He could ask why they're not for him, the foster families, but instead Loki is trying to figure out how to convince Clint to come back to Asgard with him. Because he knows, with an intensity he couldn't begin to explain, that if he loses track of the other boy due to him running away from this place, due to them living in different realms, due to the passage of time, that it's going to drive Loki a particular sort of mad. The kind where you become obsessed and mean and a bit unhinged.

Maybe that would be best avoided.

Loki has never liked anyone on sight before, or even after a few moments of conversation; he doesn't know if what he's feeling is normal, if it will pass. He'd rather not find out, honestly.

"What if I could promise you adventure? For the rest of your life? In a place very different from this one. Would you want to come with me?"
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[personal profile] icasm 2022-12-07 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
"I'm sure you know some things. Midgardian-type things. Archery things." Loki grins, and summons a copy of one of Clint's arrows, though it's green and made of flames. "Magic, though, that's my purview."

Twirling the arrow between his fingers once more Loki considers the things it best for Clint to know before approaching Asgard, even under his protection. "I'm a prince, but the second born, so I will probably never rule. Which I'm okay with because it'll mean I get to do other more fun things instead, in the name of diplomacy. My older brother's name is Thor; he's a little thick sometimes but I'm told 'his heart is in the right place' which I'm supposing means somewhere other than in his chest, where it belongs. Right now he's the worst to spend time with, because he has to go to a million council meetings this season with the Allfather but Mother has forbidden me from helping him to remember his schedule or what each one is for."

By magic, of course.

"I like books. I like magic. I'm best at illusions. I'm smarter than people expect and usually I'm bored with things in general. I can fight, though people often forget because I'm not going to turn out to a berserker like Thor probably will, but I like daggers the way you like your arrows.

What else do you want to know?

It's a life. Sometimes there's nothing to do but there's usually a feast, or a foreign delegation, or someone else's feast. There are festivals like this one here only more wonderful that cover an entire city for days.

Or there are hunts. Tournaments. Quests. That sort of thing."
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[personal profile] icasm 2022-12-07 03:11 pm (UTC)(link)
It's an illusion arrow; it would feel weird but wouldn't burn Clint at all.

"I've gotten into actual fights before." Slightly defensive. Fights he started, most likely, and usually with people who didn't know who his parents were. "Nothing to the death though. Quests are adventures. So are hunts if it's an uncommon prey. Sometimes there are puzzles or riddles to be solved in order to be awarded something." Thor adventures for trinkets; Loki usually is more taken up with the promise of magical artifacts or books on the topic, though he kind of doubts Clint would be as interested.

"Being here is kind of an adventure." It sounds a little pathetic to say so, even to him. He shrugs. "No one will force you to learn quadratic equations or whatever passes for mathematics here, at least."
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[personal profile] icasm 2022-12-07 03:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Loki grins when Clint attempts for the arrow and misses. The fact that he got that close a second time means he's good. "The Allfather doesn't really quest anymore. He makes appearances in the courts of others, or disguises himself to know the people of a realm better."

The arrow vanishesintoa whiff of green smoke. Loki narrows his eyes at Clint a little. "Not exactly. I don't want another brother. I want us to be friends but I can't stay here and you're obviously miserable and bored here so why not travel somewhere new? Somewhere no Midgardian has been in at least an age."
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[personal profile] icasm 2022-12-07 03:58 pm (UTC)(link)
"No." Loki's grin gets a little wider. "I'll ask Heimdall to summon the Bifrost. It might make you a little dizzy though, using it the first time."

He offers a hand out to Clint, and once the other boy takes it, draws a breath. For courage. For... something.

"Heimdall." He knows the Watcher has been fulfilling both title and role. Other than leaving his brother and father behind Loki has been more or less on his best behavior this trip so certainly that shouldn't weigh against him for bringing a mortal home, right?

Right?

Hopefully.

"We want to go back to Asgard. I know Mother will wish to speak with us."

There's a moment in which Loki thinks 'oh no, I'm going to have to properly beg aren't I?' before the ground beneath their feet lights up in runes and he gives Clint's hand a squeeze just as the Bifrost comes crashing down on them in all its technicolor glory.
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[personal profile] icasm 2022-12-07 05:14 pm (UTC)(link)
"Heimdall."

The Watcher simply stares at them in silence, which Loki expected, though he does not let go of Clint's hand at any point.

"I've done what you asked of me; I've made a friend." Loki lifts his chin and squares his shoulders as one gets the impression that if Heimdall had pupils he'd be rolling his eyes at these words.

"And in my infinite wisdom I neglected to give you the caveat of not kidnapping mortals to the end of endeavoring towards friendship?"

"... it's not kidnapping if they want to leave," Loki replies sullenly. "And he's important. A worthy champion."

Heimdall's gaze settles on Clint for a moment before he inclines his head in their direction. "You are correct: your Mother wishes to speak with you both.

Welcome to Asgard, Clint Barton, and well met."
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[personal profile] icasm 2022-12-07 05:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Loki grins at Clint. "You're the first person I've never lied to." Yet, anyway, though he doesn't think that hesitating to tell the entire truth as he knows it is quite the same as lying. "You're very important. To me, especially."

He raises his chin and his grin dies down to a shy sort of smile. "I hope you like it here. Come on; Mother will want to talk to both of us. Want to race?"
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[personal profile] icasm 2022-12-07 06:38 pm (UTC)(link)
"A shame," Loki intones, but he is actually quite proud of Clint for realizing Loki would win a race at this rate.

Their hands are connected and Loki takes his time pointing out parts of the capitol city as they walk. Here is the marketplace, here is the training years just beyond that gate, here are the stables, etcetera, etcetera. "Do you know how to ride? I could teach you."

There's a woman at the gate connecting the path from where they arrived to the castle, surrounded by a handful of ladies-in-waiting who bow toward Loki as he approaches with Clint. Frigga opens her arms in greeting and, reluctantly, Loki let's go fo Clint's hand in order to be hugged by his mother. "Please don't send him away," he whispers into her hair, more pleading than he'd like to admit; Frigga merely shushes him and then, with one arm around Loki's shoulders, opens another arm out toward Clint. "Welcome to Asgard, Clint Barton, son of Edith. Are you hungry?"
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[personal profile] icasm 2022-12-07 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Frigga drops her arm and lets go of Loki while giving Clint a serene yet apologetic smile, a gentle incline of her head. "Forgive me. I did not mean to cause any discomfort by my greeting. I'm afraid Loki has taken us all by surprise with the turn of events today." She gives her son a pointed look.

Loki has, for his part, moved back to stand at Clint's side but hasn't reached for the other boy's hand again just yet. Now feels like possibly the wrong time to make that gesture of declaration.

"It is no imposition; we will eat in the herb garden." She looks at one of the ladies-in-waiting, who nods in acquiescence, and the women split off -- one half of them toward the kitchen, the other half following behind Frigga as she leads Loki and Clint through the gardens toward the one she has in mind for this particular conversation.

Loki gives Clint a smile. He is fairly certain that his mother won't allow for Clint to be sent away, but that she also wants to understand why he's done... this in particular. He hadn't even wanted to go to Midgard, originally, and for him to come home early with a mortal in tow is doing a lot, even for the God of Mischief.

The herb garden is small, as Asgardian palace gardens go, with fragrant pockets of various blooms along a winding path with a pond in the very center. Still and yet, it's quite bigger than the parking lot the fair was being held in. There are benches at the pond and Frigga gestures for them to sit, each one in their own small bench in a sort of semi-circle around a larger table set with various foodstuffs; none of which, Clint might notice, that's processed. This is all food that's been cooked by hand or magic but none by a factory.

Loki sits on the center bench of the three, after his mother chooses the one closest to the pond's edge, because he'd rather be close to both of them and forcing Clint to be in the middle seems a little unfair. In the moment, anyway.

He expects to be questioned. What was he thinking, how does he imagine this will go? Instead, Frigga startles him by addressing her first question to Clint: "If my son hadn't convinced you to accompany him back home, tell me: what would the next month or so have looked like, for you? Please," she holds up a hand, "eat some, first, but do not lie to me. Either--" and this is with a pointed look at Loki, "of you."
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[personal profile] icasm 2022-12-08 07:05 pm (UTC)(link)
"I am told you are very skilled with a bow already." Frigga sounds appropriately impressed. "Perhaps you could give Loki here some pointers; he is usually much more interested in throwing his knives than bothering to notch a bow." The look she gives her son is pointed and full of some other subtext; Loki makes a slightly started face and decides that eating a pastry is better than addressing that aloud.

"Is there anything you would prefer to learn that the Midgardian educational system is lacking? If you're to stay here —" Another pointed look at Loki, "it would be in everyone's best interest, I believe, if it is an improvement over where you came from."
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[personal profile] icasm 2022-12-08 08:07 pm (UTC)(link)
"I know your name from Heimdall, who was watching over Loki as soon as he slipped away from his father and brother; I know your mother's name because i asked the Norns about the safety of your being here, and that is the name they addressed you by.

Farmwork is easily found; there is someone in the guard, I believe, who might be a suitable fit for you. Aerik's family has a farm not far from here."

Loki opens his mouth to protest but Frigga cuts him off. "I know, darling, you would likely prefer if your new friend were to stay in the castle, and perhaps that can happen someday but in the meantime... this will have to be suitable, yes?"

Loki draws a breath. He understands what's not being said, here. Neither of them are considered adults just yet, and Loki will have to wait it seems, for just one more thing that is briefly out of his reach. He looks at Clint and then at his hands. "Yes, mother."
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[personal profile] icasm 2022-12-08 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
"The Norns weave the Fate of everyone, gods and mortals alike," Loki explains, though he frowns a little. Why did his mother consult them before she met Clint? What did they say, exactly? (Was it good, bad, or just... vagueness?) "They are gods to us, who are gods to Midgardians."

"Their names are Urðr, Verðandi, and Skuld." Frigga thinks perhaps names are important in this context, even if they are unfamiliar to Clint. "They water the tree at the center of all the cosmos, named Yggdrasil, which is how Asgard is connected to Midgard."
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[personal profile] icasm 2022-12-08 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
"Yggdrasil is not a literal tree..." Loki starts, but he's not sure how to explain it further. "Maybe we could go see it at some point. That'd be an adventure, though it would probably take a while."

Frigga nods. The boys will have to speak with the Norns eventually, that much she knows. "If you're interested in how it all works, in terms of physics, there are tutors for that."
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[personal profile] icasm 2022-12-08 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
"That depends on your definition of godhood, I would think." Frigga smiles. "We Asgardians are very different from Midgardians. We live longer. We are stronger, faster, our senses are more acute." A glance at Loki, whose ears are literally burning, thanks. However, he did hear Clint shooting arrows from some distance in an otherwise noisy and crowded venue. So.

"All Asgardians are not worthy of worship by others," Frigga continues. "Some are just regular, everyday citizens. Bakers and soldiers, craftspeople and artisans. Servants. But some of us are different, unique, and singled out by the Norns to receive powers beyond the average of our world. From the moment we can articulate ourselves, we are aware of this difference, this... weight. In this, we are considered gods."
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[personal profile] icasm 2022-12-09 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
"The matter of a shorter lifetime is a problem easily solved, without any pain or effort on your part. Midgardians have lived amongst us before, though it has been quite some time..." Frigga sighs, and folds her hands together in her lap. "The rest can be trained for, honestly. What does fitting in look like, for you? What would you need to feel like you belong?"